{"id":148458,"date":"2026-06-11T19:27:27","date_gmt":"2026-06-11T23:27:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/blog\/?p=148458"},"modified":"2026-06-12T08:02:09","modified_gmt":"2026-06-12T12:02:09","slug":"episode-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/blog\/sos-podcast\/episode-4\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 4: Lean on Me"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>This week on <em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/0Bw8ku8a5hF4vMn7cTSge9?si=brciRh_DQyKMPg-bWnHE7Q\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Styled, Off Script<\/a><\/strong><\/em>, we&#8217;re talking about style as self-care.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not in the bubble baths and face masks sense of the phrase, but in the everyday ways clothing can offer comfort, confidence, familiarity, and a little bit of stability when life feels uncertain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From favorite sweatshirts and matching pajamas to go-bag essentials and comfort outfits, we explore the pieces we reach for when we&#8217;re overwhelmed, caregiving, navigating major life changes, or simply trying to make it through a difficult season.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Along the way, we share the clothes we&#8217;ll never get rid of, the outfits that feel like a hug, and the surprisingly powerful role style can play in helping us reconnect with ourselves\u2014even on the hardest days.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><strong>\ud83c\udfa7 <\/strong>Listen below, on <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/0Bw8ku8a5hF4vMn7cTSge9?si=brciRh_DQyKMPg-bWnHE7Q\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/styled-off-script\/id1896665863\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, or read the full transcript further down this page.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: Lean on Me\" style=\"border-radius: 12px; min-height: 9.5rem\" width=\"100%\" height=\"100%\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/0Bw8ku8a5hF4vMn7cTSge9?si=brciRh_DQyKMPg-bWnHE7Q&amp;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>\ud83c\udd98 This Week&#8217;s SOS Style Emergency<\/strong> came from someone staring down one of the trickiest dress codes of all: wedding season.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With multiple weddings on the calendar, overlapping guest lists, and invitations filled with phrases like &#8220;cocktail attire encouraged&#8221; and &#8220;summer formal,&#8221; they were looking for outfit ideas that felt polished, comfortable, and worth wearing again.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The conversation led us to one very relatable question:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p><strong>What do you wear when the dress code says everything\u2014and nothing\u2014at the same time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-rsvp-yes-box\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1103\" height=\"700\" data-pin-url=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/blog\/sos-podcast\/episode-4\/?tp_image_id=148463\" src=\"https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/June-SOS-Podcast-Ep-4-Email_04-1103x700.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-148463\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/June-SOS-Podcast-Ep-4-Email_04-1103x700.jpg 1103w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/June-SOS-Podcast-Ep-4-Email_04-300x190.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/June-SOS-Podcast-Ep-4-Email_04-768x487.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/June-SOS-Podcast-Ep-4-Email_04-1536x975.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/June-SOS-Podcast-Ep-4-Email_04-1378x874.jpg 1378w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/06\/June-SOS-Podcast-Ep-4-Email_04.jpg 1800w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1103px) 100vw, 1103px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Got a style dilemma?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019re taking real SOS submissions for future episodes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Whether you\u2019re:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>packing for a trip<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>stuck in a style rut<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>navigating a wardrobe change<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>or just not sure what to wear<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/forms\/d\/e\/1FAIpQLSeH_EiPgGlRYHnA6k4vHO_--QVljCeIj0-jFjrK-g_CSfZxAw\/viewform?usp=header\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Submit your own SOS request<\/strong><\/a> and we may feature it on the show!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<details class=\"wp-block-details is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary><strong>Click for the Full Episode 4 Transcript.<\/strong><\/summary>\n<details class=\"wp-block-details has-white-background-color has-background is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary>Marge (00:02.402)&nbsp;<br>Welcome back to Styled Off Script SOS. We are here for our fourth episode.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (00:12.947)&nbsp;<br>Woo, welcome back.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (00:13.454)&nbsp;<br>That&#8217;s&nbsp;crazy.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (00:15.892)&nbsp;<br>Hell&nbsp;yeah.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;Marge.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;joined with my two co-hosts, producers slash we&nbsp;haven&#8217;t&nbsp;established&nbsp;roles yet, fully. but&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;here with Liz and Maloree.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (00:29.676)&nbsp;<br>Hello, hello.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (00:30.089)&nbsp;<br>Hello.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (00:32.746)&nbsp;<br>And I actually have a question at the top of this because you both know,&nbsp;but like&nbsp;I&#8217;m going through it.&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;alluded to&nbsp;going through it in the past couple of episodes, but I want to know are&nbsp;there&nbsp;certain things that you grab from a like fashion style item piece when you need comfort? Like, my God, I&nbsp;can&#8217;t&nbsp;wait to get home and grab my sweatshirt or&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (00:33.171)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (01:00.99)&nbsp;<br>I had a rough&nbsp;day&nbsp;and I&nbsp;have&nbsp;to take my bra off and launch it across the house. Like, are there certain things that you find comforting?&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (01:12.905)&nbsp;<br>I mean, absolutely. Not to be a complete cliche, but I am somebody who loves a good pair of pajamas.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;a pajama set girl through and through.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (01:28.958)&nbsp;<br>It&#8217;s&nbsp;really life changing.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (01:30.759)&nbsp;<br>It really is.&nbsp;took&nbsp;me a little bit of time to get there. But I, the first thing I do, I think I mentioned this actually on my last episode, on the last episode or on one of the episodes that my fashion icon, one of my fashion&nbsp;icons&nbsp;is my grandmother.&nbsp;And the first thing that she used to do when she would get home was like take off all of her clothes and put on comfy, cozy clothes or her nightgown.&nbsp;And so literally one of the first things I like to do when I get home from a long day,&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>or&nbsp;when&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;feeling overwhelmed or when&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;yeah, overwhelmed is to take off my&nbsp;clothes,&nbsp;take a shower. I&nbsp;want to&nbsp;be clean and then I&nbsp;want to&nbsp;put on a luxurious set of matching pajamas. Now, not&nbsp;all of&nbsp;my pajamas match.&nbsp;I have not hit that stage of life yet, but when I need some comfort, that is definitely what I gravitate towards.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (02:24.328)&nbsp;<br>I&nbsp;literally just&nbsp;bought matching PJs for me and my mom. Matching floral&nbsp;short&nbsp;like short sleeve short shorts PJs for the summer. We you are not that like we haven&#8217;t been that type of&nbsp;people&nbsp;for since I was really little. And&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;gotten into the like fun PJ sets. Not all of them, but it really is a thing that makes you feel like&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;put&nbsp;together.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (02:28.631)&nbsp;<br>stop!&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (02:49.673)&nbsp;<br>Great.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (02:53.808)&nbsp;<br>Even when everything else is not put together.&nbsp;And I&nbsp;saw the set and I was&nbsp;like,&nbsp;this is really cute. Mama liked these. And then I was like, wait, but I&nbsp;kind of want&nbsp;them too.&nbsp;And they&#8217;re really cute.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (02:53.961)&nbsp;<br>There&#8217;s.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (03:03.591)&nbsp;<br>Yeah, there&#8217;s just sort of nothing better. There&#8217;s just sort of nothing better than like washing the day away and then having that like refresh moment of, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;like starting fresh in a new quote unquote&nbsp;outfit, but&nbsp;still being&nbsp;comfy&nbsp;and cozy. And it feels like&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;doing something just for me.&nbsp;Like there&#8217;s absolutely no one else, like definitely nobody in my house cares.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (03:03.822)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (03:32.947)&nbsp;<br>I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;think anybody notices and no one outside of my house is going to see me.&nbsp;So&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;literally just&nbsp;something that&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;doing for myself, but it makes me happy. And it always, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know,&nbsp;sort of puts&nbsp;a smile on my face.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>That&#8217;s&nbsp;mine.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (03:50.398)&nbsp;<br>I love that. How about you, Mal?&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (03:52.594)&nbsp;<br>I am not&nbsp;on&nbsp;the matching pajama game unless&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;Christmas. We always do matching Christmas pajamas, but I just&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;not a pajama person.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I have&nbsp;like my top three like&nbsp;big&nbsp;oversized&nbsp;comfy. They also probably have holes in them, sweatshirts, and a pair of leggings are like&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;my go-to. As soon as I get home.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (03:57.993)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (04:04.607)&nbsp;<br>you&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (04:13.903)&nbsp;<br>love&nbsp;a sweatshirt.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (04:21.824)&nbsp;<br>It&nbsp;d and it&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;even I&nbsp;keep my house cold all the time. And so&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (04:26.045)&nbsp;<br>I know I always see you with a blanket and&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;so jealous.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (04:29.108)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;I I&#8217;m I&nbsp;may live in Texas, but&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;always at least seventy to seventy-two degrees in my house. Like seventy-two is warm for&nbsp;me, so&nbsp;but&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;always a fan. There&#8217;s always&nbsp;air&nbsp;conditioner on.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I like I would just much rather cuddle up in a blanket or a sweatshirt than turn the air down or turn it up because there&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;just not me. But&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (04:38.045)&nbsp;<br>I love that.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (04:58.452)&nbsp;<br>I definitely have my&nbsp;big sweatshirts that are like I can just cuddle up in. And then when it&#8217;s time to go to bed though, I take that off because I need to be able to be cold when I&#8217;m sleeping.&nbsp;So&nbsp;then I have like a really thin t shirt that also probably has some holes in it. But&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;because&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;so&nbsp;worn. Like I wear it&nbsp;literally all&nbsp;the time. So&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;my&nbsp;yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (05:25.587)&nbsp;<br>It&#8217;s&nbsp;your comfort tea, I&nbsp;get&nbsp;it. Wait, are you a cold room,&nbsp;warm&nbsp;bed person?&nbsp;Like, do you like to keep your room really cold and then your bed is warm?&nbsp;Because&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;how I,&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;my dream.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (05:28.109)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (05:35.466)&nbsp;<br>Yes, and&nbsp;Andrew and I both have separate blankets that we sleep with. Like we&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;sleep under the same comforter. One because he is Yes, it is. And we actually got it after we stayed at a stay pineapple&nbsp;hotel&nbsp;and they did that. And I was like, this is&nbsp;life-changing.&nbsp;So&nbsp;we now sleep under separate comforters, which is great because he&nbsp;like&nbsp;sheds&nbsp;his.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (05:44.884)&nbsp;<br>I think that&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;very European of you.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (06:03.017)&nbsp;<br>I love that.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (06:03.167)&nbsp;<br>I think I&nbsp;need to do this.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (06:05.122)&nbsp;<br>But&nbsp;it&nbsp;life&nbsp;changing, do it. You&nbsp;won&#8217;t&nbsp;regret it.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (06:09.799)&nbsp;<br>need&nbsp;to do this. Marge, what about you?&nbsp;What&#8217;s&nbsp;your go-to comfort, attire, or piece?&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (06:20.585)&nbsp;<br>I&#8217;m&nbsp;going to&nbsp;try to say this without Poppy barking.&nbsp;P my&nbsp;dog is&nbsp;close&nbsp;by&nbsp;and she is seeing somebody outside because of course&nbsp;she&#8217;s&nbsp;quiet all morning and we hit record and&nbsp;she&#8217;s&nbsp;like,&nbsp;No, no, no,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;a part of this too.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (06:24.959)&nbsp;<br>Thank you.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (06:33.855)&nbsp;<br>She&#8217;s&nbsp;a star. She was born to be a star.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (06:36.627)&nbsp;<br>She really is. She really is. So hopefully y&#8217;all can hear this and not hear her, but&nbsp;maybe she&#8217;s&nbsp;she&#8217;ll&nbsp;make her appearance at some point.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;big on&nbsp;the&nbsp;big&nbsp;comfy&nbsp;sweatshirt.&nbsp;I think not all sweatshirts&nbsp;are created equally.&nbsp;I think there&nbsp;are some that&nbsp;immediately&nbsp;are super comfortable. And&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, yep,&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;part of the like&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;on the court&nbsp;playing,&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not on the bench.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (06:52.472)&nbsp;<br>Mm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (07:04.679)&nbsp;<br>And then there are others that&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;obviously been watching a lot of basketball, go&nbsp;Knicks&nbsp;but&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;been really, really into like building a wardrobe of&nbsp;really comfortable&nbsp;things. And like I have sweatshirts that are like Dia swag sweatshirts&nbsp;from&nbsp;I think 2017 was my favorite year.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>And when we closed one of the offices, or like&nbsp;I think it&nbsp;was during COVID, I found an extra stash. And I have probably&nbsp;three of&nbsp;varying sizes for&nbsp;varying like&nbsp;days. Because there are some days that I want something&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;a little bit fitted. And then there are others that I want like a really,&nbsp;really big, cozy,&nbsp;comfy, like&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (07:36.671)&nbsp;<br>Good luck in the mail.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (07:58.506)&nbsp;<br>Could&nbsp;go down to my knees if I wanted it to. And I&nbsp;actually really&nbsp;like&nbsp;the long&nbsp;sleeves and shorts when&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;around the house and&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;super&nbsp;comfy. Something about it just feels like being wrapped in a hug. And I also like fabrics. I think when I think&nbsp;about like&nbsp;cozy sweatshirts,&nbsp;I think it&nbsp;depends on the like weight and touch and feel of the fabric really sort of&nbsp;sets some above&nbsp;the rest.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (08:06.719)&nbsp;<br>Bye.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (08:27.815)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm, absolutely.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (08:28.034)&nbsp;<br>Yes. My favorite brand of sweatshirts is comfort colors. Comfort colors&nbsp;knows&nbsp;how to&nbsp;do the sweatshirts.&nbsp;And&nbsp;that&#8217;s all&nbsp;of my cozy ones that I go to.&nbsp;They&#8217;re&nbsp;all comfort colors and&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;all like two sizes too big, but&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;perfect.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (08:33.724)&nbsp;<br>Yes.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (08:34.985)&nbsp;<br>Absolutely.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (08:38.387)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (08:49.575)&nbsp;<br>And sometimes the cut of them, not cozy colors, but like sometimes the cut of sweatshirts&nbsp;is like&nbsp;very different. I also think&nbsp;what&#8217;s&nbsp;interesting is the I was very much a hoodie girl growing up. And even like early adulthood, I have a closet full. I&nbsp;probably have&nbsp;more sweatshirts than I&nbsp;do shoes, and I have a lot of shoes.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>And&nbsp;so&nbsp;I have a lot of hoodies that I like&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;wear very often, but&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;been really into the crew like crew neck for a while. because I also just like I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know, sometimes a hoodie stresses me out. Like I get like sensory issues&nbsp;sort of with&nbsp;things around my neck. And I think sometimes if the cut of the sweatshirt is wrong, especially in the hoodie part, I like&nbsp;start&nbsp;to feel trapped.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>That&#8217;s like&nbsp;a normal thing, right?&nbsp;Totally normal&nbsp;behavior.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (09:43.586)&nbsp;<br>Yes.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>I mean if&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;not normal then I&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;not normal either, so&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (09:50.953)&nbsp;<br>I&#8217;d&nbsp;rather&nbsp;be not&nbsp;normal.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (09:51.485)&nbsp;<br>I totally find myself asking like when to hoodie, when not to hoodie. And I think&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;funny when I think of Marge&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;talking about like, have you more sweatshirts than you do shoes? I feel the exact same way.&nbsp;Sweatshirts take up the vast majority of my closet, but I also feel like my sweatshirts hold the most sentimental meaning to me of all of my clothes.&nbsp;And they have been like,&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (09:56.626)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (10:15.006)&nbsp;<br>yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (10:20.731)&nbsp;<br>my comfort items and like my most worn items throughout my life and like the things that I hold on to the longest and that I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;want to get rid of. So yes, there are pieces&nbsp;that like&nbsp;I gravitate towards and I wear on the regular basis, but then like there are also pieces&nbsp;that like&nbsp;I&nbsp;won&#8217;t&nbsp;wear for&nbsp;a very long&nbsp;time. And then one day I will be like, I need that sweatshirt from 20.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>11&nbsp;that&nbsp;I&nbsp;haven&#8217;t&nbsp;worn&nbsp;probably in&nbsp;five years that just is going to give me comfort in this moment or remind me of something&nbsp;that like&nbsp;I need to feel right now. I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know&nbsp;I hold on to those&nbsp;sweatshirts with every ounce of my being. I feel like&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;taken the place of what people used to do with t-shirts that I just&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;have that same connection to.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (11:10.471)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>I feel the&nbsp;same.&nbsp;Like I&nbsp;also still have a ton of t-shirts, but I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;wear&nbsp;them&nbsp;I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;wear them as often as I like&nbsp;grab&nbsp;a sweatshirt. And then there are some sweatshirts that I wear constantly, and then others that&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;glad I have that I just&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;wear. I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know, not like&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;saving it for a special occasion, but like&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (11:23.079)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (11:33.959)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (11:39.185)&nbsp;<br>It just&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;hit the&nbsp;same.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (11:42.355)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>I have this old school Dia sweatshirt and probably a four or five X that I used to exclusively leave at my parents because I like it fit exactly how I wanted to. There weren&#8217;t any like oil stains or anything on it that like I could have it here and wear it around the house and like bum around the house when I was here and feel really comforting.&nbsp;<br>I have this old school Dia sweatshirt and probably a four or five X that I used to exclusively leave at my parents because I like it fit exactly how I wanted to. There weren&#8217;t any like oil stains or anything on it that like I could have it here and wear it around the house and like bum around the house when I was here and feel really comforting.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>covered in it. And then there was a point in which I brought it back to Brooklyn with me.&nbsp;And then&nbsp;now it&#8217;s just become like the traveling sweatshirt that goes in all of my bags.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;finally made it back up here to Connecticut&nbsp;in&nbsp;this last trip. and&nbsp;it&#8217;s it&nbsp;is that&nbsp;like&nbsp;go&nbsp;to&nbsp;piece&nbsp;that I just feel like hugged by.&nbsp;I think it&nbsp;was during really during like&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>the COVID years of I lived alone and needed like was trying&nbsp;to like&nbsp;find things of comfort and I bought a bunch of&nbsp;blankets&nbsp;and&nbsp;I like&nbsp;really like&nbsp;leaned&nbsp;into the cozy sweatshirt life.&nbsp;And that sweatshirt in particular was one that I wore a lot during those years.&nbsp;And now I just feel&nbsp;like&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;been through&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;been through so much with me that I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know,&nbsp;it feels like a hug from myself.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>In a way that&#8217;s not really sad and depressing, but more like a like, you got this.&nbsp;And or like&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;like sweatshirts that like remind you of a moment in time or a memory or people that&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;like,&nbsp;this like&nbsp;just feels&nbsp;really special.&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;talking about this because I had&nbsp;sort of brought&nbsp;up to Liz and Maloree about using style and fashion, or if folks&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (13:11.494)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (13:33.8)&nbsp;<br>really resonate with the idea of like style being self-care and taking care of yourself. And I know I personally&nbsp;do. And like I think as I&#8217;ve&nbsp;sort of evolved&nbsp;my personal&nbsp;style and&nbsp;gotten older,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;definitely something&nbsp;that those pieces that I really love to wear are&nbsp;absolutely in&nbsp;like their own echelon. But then&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;this like sub-adjacent category that is pieces that&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (13:41.727)&nbsp;<br>You&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (13:51.295)&nbsp;<br>Thank&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (13:59.557)&nbsp;<br>Thank&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (14:01.853)&nbsp;<br>are like&nbsp;the instant&nbsp;comfort pieces. And I&nbsp;think like&nbsp;personally I&#8217;ll&nbsp;share&nbsp;here.&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;been&nbsp;sort of acting&nbsp;as a caretaker and advocate for my parents as my dad battles cancer for the last&nbsp;year&nbsp;and&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;good.&nbsp;I&#8217;ll&nbsp;say&nbsp;like things&nbsp;are better than they were.&nbsp;So&nbsp;like&nbsp;we&#8217;ll&nbsp;take&nbsp;we&#8217;ll&nbsp;take some wins while we got it and&nbsp;he&#8217;s&nbsp;hopefully on&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (14:16.031)&nbsp;<br>Thanks.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (14:19.876)&nbsp;<br>soon.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>on the&nbsp;road to&nbsp;mend, but&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;actually spent&nbsp;the last six weeks up&nbsp;here living&nbsp;at my parents&#8217; house while&nbsp;he&#8217;s&nbsp;in the hospital. And I typically&nbsp;live in&nbsp;Brooklyn alone. And so first&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;like I get a call in the middle of the day saying, hey,&nbsp;dad&#8217;s&nbsp;in the hospital. Can we see you tonight?&nbsp;So&nbsp;you have to like&nbsp;pack&nbsp;a go bag, which is not really something until the last year that I thought about.&nbsp;<br>on the&nbsp;road to&nbsp;mend, but&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;actually spent&nbsp;the last six weeks up&nbsp;here living&nbsp;at my parents&#8217; house while&nbsp;he&#8217;s&nbsp;in the hospital. And I typically&nbsp;live in&nbsp;Brooklyn alone. And so first&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;like I get a call in the middle of the day saying, hey,&nbsp;dad&#8217;s&nbsp;in the hospital. Can we see you tonight?&nbsp;So&nbsp;you have to like&nbsp;pack&nbsp;a go bag, which is not really something until the last year that I thought about.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>And then you end up staying here for longer than you expected. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;okay, well, what pieces like when I left it was&nbsp;April&nbsp;and it was cold and chilly.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I packed sweatpants and sweatshirts and my go-to sweatshirt and like a pair of jeans and a cashmere sweater. And that was it. And then very quickly it was like, well, now&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;75 degrees and&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;hot and humid. What are we&nbsp;going to&nbsp;wear?&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (15:24.511)&nbsp;<br>Ho&nbsp;ho!&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (15:27.997)&nbsp;<br>And finding pieces that like give me that same sense of comfort on the really,&nbsp;really hard&nbsp;days, but also help hold things together when you&nbsp;have to&nbsp;talk to doctors or do hospital visits or whatever.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;like becoming&nbsp;way more&nbsp;apparent&nbsp;to me how I use style and my love of style&nbsp;as like&nbsp;a route of self-care when a lot of my mental energy is caring for other people.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (15:56.243)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (15:56.732)&nbsp;<br>It&#8217;s&nbsp;like that little bit that I keep for myself is my style and making it super&nbsp;easy is&nbsp;important.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (16:08.051)&nbsp;<br>I think that&#8217;s really interesting Marge and I wonder like if that resonates and how that resonates for other people like who maybe don&#8217;t like&nbsp;see&nbsp;themselves as&nbsp;connected to you know style and fashion because like I obviously have a different I&#8217;m not in the depths of this like you are right now but I&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (16:25.459)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (16:36.479)&nbsp;<br>remember at some point during COVID especially, like feeling the need&nbsp;to like&nbsp;dig into my closet. when I, in the times when I was like really struggling during COVID and trying to manage having the kids at home and you know, we didn&#8217;t see my parents who we live on the West Coast, my parents are on the East Coast and&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>We&nbsp;didn&#8217;t see&nbsp;my parents for over a&nbsp;year&nbsp;and I was just feeling so isolated and so alone. I really found that I, well, I&nbsp;100 %&nbsp;leaned into the sweatpants and the athleisure and the, you know, getting dressed from the waist up only for work and all of the things that I think the whole world was doing. There were also times when I was like, how can I use getting dressed up?&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (17:25.113)&nbsp;<br>Maloree (17:25.998)&nbsp;<br>Right.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (17:27.879)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (17:34.171)&nbsp;<br>as a way to make myself feel like myself again, because one of the things I love to do is to put together an outfit.&nbsp;And I realized that by not doing that, a part of myself was missing. And I found&nbsp;myself like&nbsp;creating moments when I needed to get dressed. Like I really did like&nbsp;force&nbsp;these moments that&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;need to happen that were all about getting dressed. And so,&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>whether it was creating tea parties for like virtual tea parties where the whole point was for everyone to put together a tea party outfit or, you know, hosting a virtual&nbsp;scav&#8230;&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;sorry, a scavenger hunt around my neighborhood where, you know, everyone had to wear some sort of costume even if they had to wear a mask. Like the idea of having to&#8230;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>get&nbsp;dressed and&nbsp;put&nbsp;together some sort of outfit was really the central character or idea of the whole thing, just because that was something that I missed so much. And I found that it really did have an impact on my life. And I&nbsp;have translated&nbsp;that into my life today. And&nbsp;I find that I&nbsp;work from home still, and I love working from home. And I love that I get to wear sweatpants and sweatshirts&nbsp;99 %&nbsp;of the time.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>but I do find that it affects my mood sometimes. And so over the last several months, as the world has been incredibly challenging and my personal life has been more challenging than normal, and I&#8217;ve been juggling more things and felt like I&#8217;ve had less time for myself and less time for like true self care to focus on myself. I have over the last couple of weeks said to myself, Liz, like,&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>why&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;you do one thing for yourself and allow yourself to like&nbsp;get&nbsp;dressed during the day? And&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;noticed the difference.&nbsp;Like I&#8217;m&nbsp;not forcing myself to do it every day, but if I take the 15 minutes in the morning to put together an outfit or 15 minutes the night before to think about what I&#8217;m&nbsp;going to&nbsp;wear the next day, I&#8217;m still not wearing hard pants every day.&nbsp;Don&#8217;t&nbsp;worry, ladies,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;not crazy. But like I am putting together a&nbsp;real&#8230;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (19:56.67)&nbsp;<br>head to toe,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;sometimes even wearing shoes, look, and it feels good to me. I find comfort.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (20:05.757)&nbsp;<br>You were talking about the COVID&nbsp;years of&nbsp;planning, like forcing, forcing themes in the loosest way of using the word force. But I think one of my very, very first interactions with you&nbsp;was&nbsp;probably at&nbsp;a styling team party that was virtual.&nbsp;They&#8217;re&nbsp;always still virtual. And you are the queen of a theme and getting folks to&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (20:32.312)&nbsp;<br>That&#8217;s&nbsp;right.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (20:34.535)&nbsp;<br>like&nbsp;dress&nbsp;up and&nbsp;make&nbsp;the themes&nbsp;like relatable and fun for people to&nbsp;participate. And creating the right kind of atmosphere where people feel safe leaning into the theme is actually a very, very rare skill and like a wonderful quality that I think I attended one and saw how many folks participated and just like your energy around it was just so addictive that I was like, I don&#8217;t know who she is.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>But I love that. And you have outdone yourself, meeting after&nbsp;meeting after meeting, in person otherwise, that&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;contagious.&nbsp;And it is, it is really exciting and fun.&nbsp;And&nbsp;I think those&nbsp;are the&nbsp;moments, whether&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;super casual,&nbsp;whether&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;not. Like we all have the three of us plus a few of the other folks on our team, like we have meetings a lot. And a lot of times&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;like, I love your earrings. I love your shirt. I love that,&nbsp;like.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (21:06.426)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (21:33.861)&nbsp;<br>style how folks are styling what&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;wearing when we meet&nbsp;up&nbsp;and it is&nbsp;such a&nbsp;great like&nbsp;expression of who you are and sort&nbsp;of s&nbsp;shines&nbsp;through in&nbsp;in those moments and&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;very contagious.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (21:51.871)&nbsp;<br>That means a lot to me because&nbsp;I think so many people&nbsp;are intimidated or overwhelmed by, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know, just the idea of putting together an outfit or&nbsp;feel&nbsp;pressure by that. And&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;something that I find so much joy in. And just like, you know, someone who is an artist wants to spread their art to somebody else or someone who&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>is a&nbsp;scientist&nbsp;wants to teach their science to someone else.&nbsp;Like I&nbsp;want people to understand that this can be really fun and really accessible. And if I can make it accessible to other people, then I feel like&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;doing what I want, what I should be doing. And like,&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;all,&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;all&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;here for. All&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;here for is to make what I feel like is fun, fun for other people and accessible to other people.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I&nbsp;hope that&nbsp;that is happening. And I love to hear that.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (22:50.877)&nbsp;<br>You&#8217;re&nbsp;in the right place, Liz. And now we have a podcast where we just talk about it and share it with everybody.&nbsp;We&#8217;ve&nbsp;manifested it. I love it. Mal, how about you? Do you lean into&nbsp;style as&nbsp;self-care? Do you resonate with that?&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (22:51.561)&nbsp;<br>Thank&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Exactly right.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (23:06.976)&nbsp;<br>I it&#8217;s&nbsp;funny listening to&nbsp;Liz,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;like I think I do it without realizing that I do it because&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;definitely that&nbsp;like fake it till you make it kind of thing. Like&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;those days that you&nbsp;just you&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;feel like it, but you get up, you get dressed, you get ready, and it you&nbsp;actually do&nbsp;feel better. And I&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (23:14.854)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (23:20.583)&nbsp;<br>Exactly.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (23:21.863)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (23:32.751)&nbsp;<br>Hate that sometimes because&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;like, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;want, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;want to do that, but it really does help. And&nbsp;the particularly&nbsp;for me when we were discussing the theme of this podcast this week, the time that I really thought back to that was the hardest for me personally was when my daughter Gracen was in the NICU.&nbsp;she&nbsp;was&nbsp;born at&nbsp;34&nbsp;weeks.&nbsp;So&nbsp;she was in, I&nbsp;think&nbsp;for almost three weeks. but&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (23:40.895)&nbsp;<br>you&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (24:00.938)&nbsp;<br>Wow.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (24:03.006)&nbsp;<br>Navigating that, plus we had just moved back to Texas.&nbsp;my&nbsp;husband was still in the military, so he was like&nbsp;not&nbsp;here full time. there was just like a lot of back and forth. Life was up in the air. I had an almost two-year-old at home, and it was just the most incredibly hard part of my life. but the things that I&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>enjoyed the most was like what I was&nbsp;going to&nbsp;wear that day because and it seems so silly and so trivial but it really did help and thinking about it and putting it together I wore daily literally I still have them in my closet and I wear them all the time.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;a like linen set from Aerie and it came in like&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (24:36.82)&nbsp;<br>Hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (24:59.95)&nbsp;<br>Four&nbsp;different colors. And I bought every single color that&nbsp;they&#8217;ve&nbsp;come out with in this shirt and short set thing because it buttoned up.&nbsp;So&nbsp;at the time when I was postpartum needing to pump or do skin to skin with Gracen that was easy. But they were cute. And being in the hospital, it gets cold.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I had&nbsp;the long&nbsp;sleeves that I could roll up if I wanted. And they were soft and comfortable.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (25:16.755)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (25:27.896)&nbsp;<br>But they were so cute and they had bright colors. They were all colorful. And that just like it brought joy in a time that&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;feel very joyful. And&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;definitely&nbsp;that like&nbsp;you just&nbsp;have to&nbsp;fake it till you make it. And I did, and we did, and&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;here now. And&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;crazy to think&nbsp;she&#8217;s&nbsp;about to be three.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (25:38.825)&nbsp;<br>Hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (25:57.867)&nbsp;<br>And just that whole time in my life looking back, it was so hard. But doing things like that, taking care of myself, making sure that I was okay and still taking care of everything else,&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;in such a better place. And&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;just incredible.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I do&nbsp;definitely think&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (26:21.821)&nbsp;<br>And&nbsp;she&#8217;s&nbsp;such a colorful little girl.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (26:24.232)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (26:24.456)&nbsp;<br>She is a hundred percent&nbsp;a colorful&nbsp;little girl.&nbsp;You&nbsp;earlier today she was walking around with two different shoes on, a bow, two different bows in her hair, and a purse. So&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (26:31.795)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (26:38.749)&nbsp;<br>Was it two days ago that she came in and needed you to tie the purple sparkly cape around her neck? Yes. Yes.&nbsp;Yeah. I love that.&nbsp;I think I&nbsp;think&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;so&nbsp;I&nbsp;interesting. I think&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;a lot of&nbsp;things that&#8217;s interesting&nbsp;about this. I know in the recent few weeks, sort of as the weather has transitioned and&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (26:43.854)&nbsp;<br>her Cape, her princess cape. Yep. Yep. Yep.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (27:03.891)&nbsp;<br>Sort of every&nbsp;couple of days,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, okay, I think&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;going to&nbsp;have to stay a couple more days. I think&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;going to&nbsp;stay a couple more days. And for me right now,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;just easier for me to stay up here than then get back to my apartment and switch out clothes and come back. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;had to do a little bit of like spring summer shopping on a budget, to just like&nbsp;get&nbsp;some things that I can wear, just like, you know, throughout whatever. And when I traveled&nbsp;up&nbsp;the mood and&nbsp;moment&nbsp;that I was in was like black&nbsp;sweatpants,&nbsp;black sweatshirts.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;cold.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;like late&nbsp;winter,&nbsp;early spring.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;rainy, gross, whatever. But as it&#8217;s lightened up and we&#8217;re spending more time outside and things are starting to feel a little bit more hopeful, I bought a few more things in colors and I bought lighter weight like linens and things that just feel really bright and beautiful and&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>I think back, Liz, you&nbsp;sort of triggered&nbsp;some memories for me during COVID, really, where there were moments where the only&nbsp;person&nbsp;I was&nbsp;quote&nbsp;seeing at the time was myself in the mirror. And it was those moments that on days that I did put on something that was different from the norm, or I put on lipstick. Like&nbsp;there&nbsp;were some days I put on lipstick or jewelry or&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (28:16.169)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (28:29.691)&nbsp;<br>I&#8217;m&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (28:30.835)&nbsp;<br>Just like something that I love to really boost my&nbsp;my&nbsp;mood. And I caught glimpses of myself in either the bathroom mirror or my front mirror or something. It&nbsp;sort&nbsp;of kick started this like rewiring, and I&nbsp;think&nbsp;was sort of a really critical moment in my journey of like accepting my body as it is and really loving it more than I had before and really appreciating what it&#8217;s gotten me through. And&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (28:36.125)&nbsp;<br>Thank&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (28:46.207)&nbsp;<br>Bye!&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (29:00.691)&nbsp;<br>How fashion and style have helped me get to that point&nbsp;where in&nbsp;at that point, like in extremely dark time for everybody, finding those moments of joy, finding that, like, hey,&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;the one&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;getting through this. Like, you got this,&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;going to&nbsp;like just&nbsp;keep&nbsp;going. And finding those little bits of joy in&nbsp;that is&nbsp;really.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Can do wonders. And I feel like over that period of time, like I became way more comfortable looking in a mirror. Like, I&#8217;ll be really honest with y&#8217;all. I did not have a floor-length mirror from the time I moved out of my parents&#8217; house at 17 till probably I don&#8217;t think I had one in my first or second apart. Like it was a while. It was like a very long time that I did not want to see my reflection. And&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (29:34.175)&nbsp;<br>you&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (29:37.674)&nbsp;<br>Thank&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (29:51.272)&nbsp;<br>Wow.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (29:55.238)&nbsp;<br>I can say that now and be honest and whatever. And it was really,&nbsp;really&nbsp;I struggled a lot with my body image. And now, like even on&nbsp;a bad day, on a good whatever, like there are moments where I catch a glimpse of myself. Truly up here, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;wear a lot of makeup.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;just like, okay,&nbsp;let&#8217;s&nbsp;like&nbsp;pull&nbsp;ourselves together.&nbsp;Let&#8217;s&nbsp;look good. We like what&nbsp;we&#8217;re wearing. Out the door, rings on, earrings on, out the door. See you later. And&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (30:02.302)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>There&#8217;s moments that I catch my reflection as I&#8217;m walking through the hallway, and I&#8217;m like, okay, we got it. We feel we could do this. We&#8217;re still kicking it. And it does help in those moments where you really are like feeling as much of yourself as you can be in moments where things feel crazy. I think I said earlier, control what you can control amidst the uncontrollable and&nbsp;<br>There&#8217;s moments that I catch my reflection as I&#8217;m walking through the hallway, and I&#8217;m like, okay, we got it. We feel we could do this. We&#8217;re still kicking it. And it does help in those moments where you really are like feeling as much of yourself as you can be in moments where things feel crazy. I think I said earlier, control what you can control amidst the uncontrollable and&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (30:48.116)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (30:50.958)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>There are very few moments when things feel uncontrollable that you can have some sort of control over. And you know, am I gonna go out and buy a whole new wardrobe and have millions of dollars to buy all the things that I would think one day could make me really happy? No, but I&#8217;m gonna add a couple of things that brighten up my day or add a bit of fun into the day-to-day just to&nbsp;<br>There are very few moments when things feel uncontrollable that you can have some sort of control over.&nbsp;And you know, am I&nbsp;going to&nbsp;go out and buy a whole new wardrobe and have millions of dollars to buy all the things that I would think one day could make me really happy?&nbsp;No, but&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;going to&nbsp;add a couple of things that brighten up my day or add a bit of fun into the day-to-day just to&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (30:59.103)&nbsp;<br>Thank&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (31:22.832)&nbsp;<br>Add a little something.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (31:25.008)&nbsp;<br>I think, mean Marge, I think it&#8217;s really powerful for you to share about how you may be used to feel versus how you feel now because you are such&nbsp;a&nbsp;ambassador for our brand and for Dia and just, mean, for anybody who&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>follows&nbsp;you on social media or who knows you in real life, the way that you share so much of yourself and your style. And&nbsp;I think people&nbsp;see you as somebody who&nbsp;just is&nbsp;so confident. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;to hear&nbsp;that that&nbsp;maybe&nbsp;wasn&#8217;t always who you were, I think&nbsp;really&nbsp;important for people who are maybe still on their journey.&nbsp;First of all, I think we&#8217;re all always on our journey, right?&nbsp;Just because of where we are right now, right?&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (32:04.723)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (32:11.835)&nbsp;<br>One thousand percent.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (32:14.687)&nbsp;<br>I just appreciate you sharing that so much because I think for myself and for other people who maybe are listening like it&#8217;s okay if you&#8217;re not there right now, whether you were there before or you might be there in the future and&nbsp;Yeah, I just think that that&#8217;s really important. I also just like&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;talking about you know, spring is coming and spring is coming and&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>or&nbsp;spring is here, summer is, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;even know&nbsp;what&#8217;s&nbsp;happening in our world right now, forget everything&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;saying. But as we head into a different season and we think about like, or I think about the world that we&#8217;re living in now and like, like how, I don&#8217;t know, things like just do feel so heavy around me still, us, I think a lot of us are just feeling like,&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (32:46.177)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (33:11.807)&nbsp;<br>It is so heavy. And at the same time, like it&#8217;s, I guess when this video come for this video, oh my God, what is wrong with my brain? I did this. When this podcast comes out,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;about to be&nbsp;pride&nbsp;month or it is&nbsp;pride&nbsp;month. And like,&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;so much to celebrate.&nbsp;It&#8217;s also, I feel so conflicted. Like&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;the 250th anniversary of America and&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>you&nbsp;know, are we being patriotic? Are we&nbsp;not being&nbsp;patriotic? Like&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;just so much going on in the world. And like, how am I using my style to embrace all of that, I think. And that is something that I think about, like,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;someone who puts outfits together.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;someone who loves color.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;someone whose kids are looking at me for, you know, inspiration and sort of.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>whether they do what I do or they don&#8217;t, they are aware of what is going on and what I am doing and I don&#8217;t know like it&#8217;s something that I&#8217;m very conscious about right now. Like I swapped out my Apple watch band and put on my pride watch band this week. Like that is my accessory of the season I guess and that and I&#8217;m just&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (34:32.711)&nbsp;<br>I bought rainbow French tip nails.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;very excited.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (34:35.941)&nbsp;<br>Right? Like&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;just sort of like,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;thinking about those things. And&nbsp;I think other people&nbsp;are thinking about those things too. And if&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not thinking about those things,&nbsp;maybe this&nbsp;is an opportunity to take some of those risks to think about those things. If you want a themed box from Dia, we can help you think about those things. But, you know, fashion is a fun way to incorporate some of the things going on into the world of style is a fun way&nbsp;to.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>incorporate&nbsp;some of the things going on into the world into your life as well.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>I think some of the best fashion risks, or I don&#8217;t know, maybe not risks, but like some of the different fashion risks I&#8217;ve taken in life have been like celebrating pride. And especially in New York where things just feel&nbsp;<br>I think some of the best fashion risks, or I don&#8217;t know, maybe not risks, but like some of the different fashion risks I&#8217;ve taken in life have been like celebrating pride. And especially in New York where things just feel&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (35:24.701)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Thank&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (35:32.238)&nbsp;<br>so fun and celebratory and yet like very real of the moment. And you just like see so many people wearing incredible outfits. Like you go to the parade and you&#8217;re like, okay, I can do this. And then the next year you sort of come with a little bit more. Like it is that celebration of self expression and for truly everybody and leaning into style and color and just like&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Who&nbsp;you&nbsp;want to be in the&nbsp;world.&nbsp;And I think&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;so much that we tie up in our heads&nbsp;about like&nbsp;the expectations of our body and who we are and our style.&nbsp;And it all feels really hard and difficult.&nbsp;And yet, like your body is the thing&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;going to&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;with you from the very, very beginning till the very, very, very end. And finding ways to celebrate that instead of&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Chastising it or putting it in town. Like I talked down to myself for years.&nbsp;And I&nbsp;truly think&nbsp;that like as I started to obviously, therapy is a wonderful thing that I recommend for everybody. I had&nbsp;therapy&nbsp;this morning. but like really like learning to be kind to yourself and be kind to others and know that&nbsp;everybody&#8217;s&nbsp;got their stuff and everybody&#8217;s&nbsp;sort of trying&nbsp;the best that they can.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>the&nbsp;same as we are all trying to fake it and fake it&nbsp;till&nbsp;you make it. The more you&nbsp;sort of like&nbsp;lean&nbsp;into that yourself, the more you see it in other people as well. And&nbsp;I think sometimes that those moments&nbsp;are the ones that like grab that little bit of extra joy or like start to like&nbsp;inspire&nbsp;the&nbsp;fun and exciting even more and fuel it.&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;like, okay, we&#8217;re all just&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;all just trying.&nbsp;We&#8217;ve&nbsp;had&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (37:26.143)&nbsp;<br>Hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>me.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>We&#8217;re just trying to make it through. I&#8217;m gonna try to be a little bit easier on myself, a little bit more kind, a little bit more fun. And then you find out like, I&#8217;m actually having fun here. Okay, cool. Let&#8217;s go. And your body&#8217;s carried you through it all.&nbsp;<br>We&#8217;re&nbsp;just trying to&nbsp;trying&nbsp;to make it through.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;going to&nbsp;try to be&nbsp;a little bit&nbsp;ease&nbsp;a&nbsp;little bit easier on myself, a little bit more kind, a little bit more fun. And then you turn&nbsp;find&nbsp;out like, I&#8217;m actually having fun here. Okay, cool.&nbsp;Let&#8217;s&nbsp;go. And your body&#8217;s carried you through it all.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (37:47.591)&nbsp;<br>Exactly.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Yeah, and I think I mean not to bring it always back idea, but I do deeply feel that one of the things that we do for our customers is help our customers find pieces that they might not otherwise find for themselves that truly do make them feel good and like there is like pulling a pair of jeans out of a box&nbsp;<br>Yeah, and&nbsp;I think I mean I not to bring it always back idea, but I do deeply feel that one of the things that we do for our customers is Help our customers find pieces that they might not otherwise find for themselves that truly do make them feel good and like there is like Pulling a pair of jeans out of a box&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (38:16.187)&nbsp;<br>Absolutely.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (38:21.545)&nbsp;<br>that you did not pick for yourself and&nbsp;putting&nbsp;them on and they just fit you. realizing that you have a great new pair of jeans that can now become your, for that go bag or whatever it is, that you have a great pair of jeans, you never have to think about it, you can just reach into your closet and pull those jeans out, they&#8217;re soft, they&#8217;re comfortable.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (38:39.561)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (38:48.019)&nbsp;<br>They have great&nbsp;stretch, they look great, they fit great, and you can pair them with that amazing worn-in sweatshirt that is your comfort sweatshirt, and we can help you do that.&nbsp;And I just think that that&#8217;s really special.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (39:02.557)&nbsp;<br>I&#8217;m&nbsp;going to&nbsp;go one step further with that, Liz. I think on top of that is the feedback that this isn&#8217;t like me trying to drop something in there, but the fact that our customers tell us where they&#8217;re wearing their like where they&#8217;re wearing things or like what they like about something like my favorite feedback is I had no idea that I wanted this, and yet somehow you like sent it, like you read my mind or like&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>I&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;think I was&nbsp;going to&nbsp;like this, but I love it. Or&nbsp;we&#8217;ve&nbsp;had so many moments where our customers so wonderfully share beyond just their style, but their life, that I find unbelievably inspiring and have helped me become more vulnerable and share because&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;the reality of life. And having like being a company that sells clothes like many others, we&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Have&nbsp;a very unique&nbsp;business in&nbsp;which like&nbsp;our customers send us feedback and like&nbsp;write&nbsp;reviews and&nbsp;let us know&nbsp;sort of like&nbsp;how&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;feeling&nbsp;or what they&nbsp;what&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;experiencing.&nbsp;And I promise you, people read every single thing that gets sent.&nbsp;I read it often, like multiple times a week.&nbsp;I&#8217;m looking at all of the feedback written in.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (40:19.199)&nbsp;<br>Marge (40:27.901)&nbsp;<br>Because&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;something that I&nbsp;deeply I&nbsp;find&nbsp;very important&nbsp;to my&nbsp;role, but&nbsp;also get a ton of inspiration from. And&nbsp;draws&nbsp;like it&nbsp;inspires&nbsp;my own style. And I think that that is just really, really powerful that&nbsp;that like&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t happen in a lot of other businesses or in a lot of other jobs. And&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;I think one of the coolest parts about&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>you know, our life. Like I feel like sometimes we get to experience all the lives of the clothes within the Dia boxes and we get to sort of be out there and just like being there in those moments. The good ones, the bad ones. Like I loved having customers be like, I&#8217;m wearing this to a like I wore this blazer to a job interview and I got the job. Like obviously you&#8217;re excited, but like I&#8217;m&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Beaming and&nbsp;thrilled. Like and I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know you&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (41:33.292)&nbsp;<br>It just becomes deeply, deeply relational.&nbsp;And it&nbsp;I think&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;the coolest part about it is like I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know you, but&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;living with you.&nbsp;Like&nbsp;we&#8217;re doing this&nbsp;together through&nbsp;a box, through a screen, through a styling note, and that&#8217;s really cool.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (41:36.371)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (41:47.699)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (41:47.784)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (41:58.986)&nbsp;<br>It&#8217;s&nbsp;like fashionable pen pals.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (42:00.953)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (42:01.439)&nbsp;<br>You&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (42:03.921)&nbsp;<br>I love that. Well, speaking of&nbsp;I think I&nbsp;know. Who would have who would have thought? We&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;even plan that part out. Okay. We are going to step into our SOS style emergency segment. And this is where we talk through real&nbsp;life what do&nbsp;I wear situations&nbsp;submitted&nbsp;by our listeners, friends of the brand, and people who just need a little&nbsp;style&nbsp;help. You can&nbsp;submit&nbsp;it at the link in our description or in our bio or&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (42:07.667)&nbsp;<br>Perfect transition.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (42:33.925)&nbsp;<br>Dia.com\/SOS slash SOS.&nbsp;So&nbsp;we have an SOS for this week. And I promise&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;not me. I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know who this is. They&nbsp;remain&nbsp;anonymous and&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;give us a ton of information on who they&nbsp;are. So that&#8217;s&nbsp;kind of exciting.&nbsp;so&nbsp;this listener says I have a few weddings coming up this summer, and the dress codes are&nbsp;kind of vague, open&nbsp;ended.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Things like cocktail attire encouraged or summer formal, something&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;never heard before, which they say somehow feels both helpful and completely unhelpful. But&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;also it looks like&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;going to be some overlap in guests between the weddings.&nbsp;So&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;trying to find a few options that feel dressed up and&nbsp;appropriate without&nbsp;buying a bunch of one-time outfits, which is always a struggle. they consider themselves, I consider myself&nbsp;\u201cstyle-ish\u201d&nbsp;so not stylish but style-ish&nbsp;I care about my clothes and I want to look good but I also want to be really comfortable and like myself I tend to gravitate towards knit maxi dresses in the summer that are a bit more casual but I&#8217;m also interested in trying something new.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>And as someone who got their&nbsp;Dia&nbsp;box that is full of dresses, I know that we have amazing options, but I would love to&nbsp;hear&nbsp;your&nbsp;style&nbsp;emergency solution.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (43:55.299)&nbsp;<br>No.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (44:05.518)&nbsp;<br>I love the I mean&nbsp;we&#8217;ve&nbsp;talked about it before, but like a nap dress because yes, it can be casual, and I think that it could go for quite a few themes. I have no idea what summer&nbsp;formal is&nbsp;though. But just like you could do it, you could dress it up with accessories, accessorize to make it look dressier, or you could even&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>For like&nbsp;a more casual wedding, just wear it with some sandals and like simple jewelry. But for a dressier wedding,&nbsp;do&nbsp;a bigger&nbsp;statement&nbsp;earring or necklace. Do something a little bit different with your hair. Maybe not just like what&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;putting on your body, but like maybe&nbsp;do&nbsp;an updo or&nbsp;do&nbsp;something&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;not necessarily your norm, which I think is a fun way.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>And I tend to overlook that a lot. I wear my hair the same all the time. But for things like that, when I&#8217;m trying to kind of change the entire feel of a look, of a dress, if I&#8217;m trying to like dress it up a little bit more, doing something different with my hair does that for me, as well as like putting on a bigger, chunkier statement earring and a necklace and&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>breaking out some heels for those special occasions. but&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;my&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;mine. I especially if&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;into a maxi dress, going with something that&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;already comfortable in, I think is important. Just because then&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not&nbsp;going to&nbsp;be fidgety, you feel comfortable,&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not&nbsp;going to&nbsp;be like feeling out of place.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (45:36.893)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (45:39.337)&nbsp;<br>So, thank&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (45:45.843)&nbsp;<br>you&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (46:02.618)&nbsp;<br>And&nbsp;I think weddings&nbsp;are especially&nbsp;difficult for I know&nbsp;for me, because&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know&nbsp;half&nbsp;these people here. And&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;very like&nbsp;I know&nbsp;nobody&#8217;s&nbsp;looking at me, but&nbsp;also&nbsp;I feel like&nbsp;everybody&#8217;s&nbsp;looking at me.&nbsp;so&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;mine.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (46:11.076)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (46:22.525)&nbsp;<br>I love that. A nap dress is a go to&nbsp;a go&nbsp;to.&nbsp;They&#8217;re&nbsp;also&nbsp;really flowy, so depending on the weather, you can&nbsp;sort&nbsp;of get&nbsp;away with it for quite a few months because you can like&nbsp;it&#8217;ll&nbsp;survive a really, really&nbsp;hot day, but also be&nbsp;nice in&nbsp;in cooler weather too.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (46:27.423)&nbsp;<br>Can I also?&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (46:36.098)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (46:46.335)&nbsp;<br>Absolutely. Can I plug a couple of specific options that we currently have just because why not? Okay, so&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;start with like&nbsp;a very specific&nbsp;piece and then Go from there.&nbsp;So&nbsp;we have a&nbsp;brand new&nbsp;dress in our inventory that comes in two colors&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;by the brand&nbsp;actually one&nbsp;of our private label brands East Adeline&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (46:52.826)&nbsp;<br>Absolutely.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (47:16.447)&nbsp;<br>and it is, I would describe it&nbsp;sort of as&nbsp;a beginner&#8217;s entry point prairie dress, but&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;not a true prairie dress.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;made of sort&nbsp;of a rayon material, so&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;very light&nbsp;and airy. It does&nbsp;not,&nbsp;it has a flowy short sleeve, so&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;not fitted at the sleeve, and it has an open neck, which is, I think,&nbsp;really pretty&nbsp;to show a little bit of.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>decolletage, but you can wear a regular bra. It is cinched right under the bust, but&nbsp;enough&nbsp;room for a large bust. And then similar to a nap dress, it&#8217;s&nbsp;tiered, but it only has two tiers.&nbsp;So&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;not like multiple tiers,&nbsp;very&nbsp;easy to dress up and dress down.&nbsp;It comes in sort of a cornflower blue and also what I am describing as a cucumber green.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (47:47.557)&nbsp;<br>Mm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (48:13.055)&nbsp;<br>And I just think&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;perfect for a summer wedding. I also&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know exactly what cocktail attire encouraged is, but I like&nbsp;want&nbsp;to just throw all descriptions of wedding attire out the window other than black tie, because I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know what any of them mean. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;I think this&nbsp;is&nbsp;very easy&nbsp;to dress&nbsp;up,&nbsp;dress down. You can wear it with heels. You can wear it with wedges. You can&nbsp;wear it with&nbsp;sandals. Like you can easily, depending on, as Maloree said, with different accessories.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>wear it&nbsp;from like&nbsp;the beach to anything but&nbsp;black&nbsp;tie. Like I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;think&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;appropriate for&nbsp;a&nbsp;black tie&nbsp;wedding but&nbsp;with like&nbsp;metallic heels and the right fancy jewelry it could be very dressy. So that is&nbsp;a very specific&nbsp;option&nbsp;that you could ask a stylist for or that we could include in a themed box. And then we carry a brand London Times in our inventory that I just think basically&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>any dress from that brand that we carry could easily work for this ask. And one of the things&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;great about this ask, especially since we&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know very much about this customer, is that their pieces&nbsp;are like&nbsp;so super versatile, both in style and&nbsp;sort of in&nbsp;age and aesthetic.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Anybody can wear these dresses. They are&nbsp;almost exclusively&nbsp;flit and flit and fair. my god fit and flare and a line so they fit really&nbsp;really&nbsp;well They&#8217;re all machine washable, which is great So like I know this customer doesn&#8217;t want to buy too many pieces for specific for a specific occasion&nbsp;But&nbsp;she can wear this dress to this and then most of these dresses&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>can be worn either to the office if styled differently or to a luncheon or a shower or they are dresses that can be worn&nbsp;again and again&nbsp;in different situations and the care for them is&nbsp;really easy.&nbsp;They&#8217;re&nbsp;all machine washable and hang to dry. They can all be worn with a regular bra.&nbsp;Yeah, I mean, they&#8217;re just like really, really, really fabulous dresses.&nbsp;And so those can easily be requested from a stylist as well, just by asking for dresses from&nbsp;London&nbsp;Times. And I think like,&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (50:22.927)&nbsp;<br>Love that part.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (50:35.815)&nbsp;<br>you really, really&nbsp;can&#8217;t&nbsp;go wrong&nbsp;with.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (50:39.379)&nbsp;<br>Their dresses are phenomenal. And I&nbsp;I&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;not always a&nbsp;dress&nbsp;girl. Summertime me is very much a&nbsp;dress&nbsp;girl. And I like options that I can have in my summer wardrobe that I can dress up and dress down without like in case I get invited to something or a plus one or have an event or whatever. Like I like that I have shoes that I can dress something up&nbsp;really easily, but that I can&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Throw on sandals and wear&nbsp;it&nbsp;around the city or whatever. and&nbsp;so&nbsp;I&nbsp;I&nbsp;love our options. I want to just speak as&nbsp;the&nbsp;marketer for a hot second. in case&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;new to Dia, when we say something like private label or a Dia brand, we have exclusive styles curated and chosen specifically for Dia for us.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>That Liz and our team&nbsp;gets&nbsp;together and&nbsp;produces&nbsp;specifically for our customers. And it is a labor of love, but something that we really, really love to help fill the white space that exists in the market. And so, I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know if like private label is something that folks are familiar with, but&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;basically when a brand produces their own clothing,&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>And like has&nbsp;has&nbsp;clothing exclusive to them. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;I just&nbsp;wanted to&nbsp;to&nbsp;clarify there. We have as of right now five&nbsp;different brands.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (52:13.087)&nbsp;<br>You&#8217;re&nbsp;fired.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (52:17.907)&nbsp;<br>I think&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;true. We could take a deep dive into some of our special brands in a different episode. That might be fun.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (52:21.425)&nbsp;<br>Ooh, I would love that. And this&nbsp;sounds like&nbsp;like&nbsp;me being marketing and biased,&nbsp;but like&nbsp;I am constantly putting these brands above all of the other like many other brands. And that&#8217;s just&nbsp;sort of like&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;not because I am just like the girl with the Dia tattoo obsessed. It is&nbsp;truly like&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (52:38.93)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (52:47.911)&nbsp;<br>I&#8217;m&nbsp;obsessed with the styles that we&nbsp;have&nbsp;and I love how they fit and I love where I can wear them.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I felt like I&nbsp;wanna&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (52:53.75)&nbsp;<br>I&nbsp;literally have&nbsp;worn&nbsp;exclusive&nbsp;private label all week this week and I&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;realize it until like just now.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (52:59.749)&nbsp;<br>Yeah. my god. I love that. I love that.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (53:02.419)&nbsp;<br>That makes me feel good.&nbsp;I mean, I&nbsp;think we have a lot of wonderful dresses in our inventory. And&nbsp;I think that there&nbsp;are a lot of wonderful dresses out there.&nbsp;when&nbsp;we put together,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;assuming we will do a themed box around this. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;if&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;interested in seeing&nbsp;different styles, you can look at&nbsp;sort&nbsp;of&nbsp;the marketing, like Marge said, around that. I just think that&nbsp;the&#8230;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (53:19.177)&nbsp;<br>Great idea.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (53:27.633)&nbsp;<br>East Adeline dress that I described and again the London Times dresses that we carry overall and&nbsp;and&nbsp;London Times is not&nbsp;exclusive to&nbsp;to&nbsp;DIA. You can find those dresses&nbsp;out and about&nbsp;as well. Although&nbsp;we&#8217;ve&nbsp;curated a specific, you know,&nbsp;selection&nbsp;that we stand behind. I just think that those dresses for the event that are being&nbsp;described for this&nbsp;for this wedding are just like top-notch.&nbsp;So&nbsp;thanks for explaining Marge because&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;right.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;using&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>I want to make sure&nbsp;I&#8217;m&#8230;&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>I would also say too, like a huge benefit in this situation. A huge benefit of Dia is the ability to try before you buy. That sounds like that is like a marketing term, but like you can get either tell your stylist in your normal style experience or a theme box. You can&nbsp;<br>I&nbsp;I&nbsp;would also say I would also&nbsp;say too, like a huge&nbsp;benefit in this&nbsp;in this sort of situation. A huge benefit of Dia is the ability to try before you&nbsp;buy. That sounds like that is like a marketing term,&nbsp;but like&nbsp;you can get either tell your stylist in your normal style experience or a theme box. You can&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (54:07.647)&nbsp;<br>confused.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (54:26.547)&nbsp;<br>Get a box delivered. You have five days to play. Try it on with stuff that you&nbsp;like, and&nbsp;then send back what you&nbsp;don&#8217;t.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;a great way, especially for event dressing like this, like&nbsp;this like&nbsp;specific box. Like, hey, I want five, you know, this box will&nbsp;be like&nbsp;curated for summer weddings. And like the assumption, at least like so customers know, we know you may not like all five dresses. Like, we obviously want to get you five dresses that&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;like.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (54:50.825)&nbsp;<br>Yeah.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (54:55.869)&nbsp;<br>And the hardest decision is which ones are you&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;keep if&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;keep all of them. But like we want you to have the ability to try different options and make a decision best for you with the&nbsp;the&nbsp;help and styling of a personal stylist that chose them specifically for you.&nbsp;So&nbsp;use that to your advantage, especially for events like.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Try it on with shoes, twirl it a couple times, put on your favorite music, grab&nbsp;a glass of wine.&nbsp;Don&#8217;t&nbsp;spill the wine on anything. You do have to send it back if&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not going to keep&nbsp;it. but you are only charged for what you keep and not what you send back to us.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I think&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;just like&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;not a lot of opportunities that let you do that. I know I used to be somebody that would buy a bunch of dresses online or in person, and then&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Desperately try to return them once I picked the option. so the ability to try a few without having to finance that whole lifestyle is nice. So okay, that&#8217;s the last like Dia related plug. I&#8217;d like to keep this ad-free, but we also gotta hype the brand. It&#8217;s also like true life experience. So&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (56:09.139)&nbsp;<br>Moving on.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (56:19.569)&nbsp;<br>Okay, well I&nbsp;actually have&nbsp;to go because I&nbsp;have to&nbsp;go back to the hospital to do my daily check-in with&nbsp;dad and&nbsp;and&nbsp;see how things are going and be the&nbsp;the&nbsp;chauffeur for my mom.&nbsp;So that is&nbsp;that is how I am ending my day. And then usually when I get home from that, I am brain dead and exhausted and&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (56:35.411)&nbsp;<br>Good luck, Marge&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (56:37.038)&nbsp;<br>Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (56:48.135)&nbsp;<br>We have&nbsp;girl&nbsp;dinner and watch ha&nbsp;ha&nbsp;hee&nbsp;hee&nbsp;videos on YouTube.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Maloree (56:52.297)&nbsp;<br>Liz (56:52.765)&nbsp;<br>I hope&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;doing it in&nbsp;comfy, cozy, comforting clothes.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (56:57.785)&nbsp;<br>Absolutely, absolutely. This is&nbsp;a great conversation. Excited to hear folks&nbsp;and if&nbsp;they have similar experiences or similar styles that they like or relate to the wedding guest, we want to hear a comment, so make sure to drop a comment.&nbsp;you&nbsp;can&nbsp;submit&nbsp;your&nbsp;so s, dia.com\/SOS&nbsp;And&nbsp;we have new episodes every other Friday.&nbsp;So&nbsp;we will see you&nbsp;on&nbsp;the next one. Episode five&nbsp;already is&nbsp;the next episode. So&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>Maloree (57:27.395)&nbsp;<br>Wow.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Liz (57:28.479)&nbsp;<br>See you soon. Happy Pride. Bye.&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>Marge (57:28.532)&nbsp;<br>We&#8217;re&nbsp;nailing it. Okay. Happy pride.<\/summary>\n<p><\/p>\n<\/details>\n<\/details>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Style isn&#8217;t always about getting dressed up.<br \/>\nSometimes it&#8217;s about comfort, confidence, and finding a little bit of yourself again. 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