{"id":148557,"date":"2026-07-23T17:03:07","date_gmt":"2026-07-23T21:03:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/blog\/?p=148557"},"modified":"2026-07-24T09:14:14","modified_gmt":"2026-07-24T13:14:14","slug":"episode-7","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/blog\/sos-podcast\/episode-7\/","title":{"rendered":"How to Find the Closet Essentials That Actually Work for You | Styled, Off Script Ep. 7"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Every closet has a few overachievers\u2014the personal closet essentials that quietly make getting dressed easier.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The shorts you wash quickly because you want to wear them again. The jacket that somehow works with almost everything. The dress that holds an entire memory. The jeans you trust enough to put on without a backup plan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These pieces are not always new, expensive, or particularly impressive on a hanger. They simply keep showing up\u2014and somewhere along the way, they become the MVPs of your closet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In Episode 7 of <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/0At3ZXdJyD5E2u770cmeym?si=khgnuzyoR3CsJa-69lQNhQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em><strong>Styled, Off Script<\/strong><\/em>,<\/a> Marge, Liz, and Maloree look beyond the usual list of closet essentials to ask a more personal question:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>What clothes have earned your trust?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/0At3ZXdJyD5E2u770cmeym?si=wweaMEF7Ru6J6HOQ85VHVQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Listen: The Clothes That Earned Their Place<\/a><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>In this episode, the hosts compare the pieces they wear most, the clothes they will never give away, and the styles they once believed were not \u201cfor them.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The conversation moves from broken-in denim shorts and inherited caftans to sentimental dresses, oversized button-downs, and a moto jacket that has survived 13 years, multiple style eras, and even a black-tie wedding.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But the episode is not really about creating another checklist of things everyone should own.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It is about what happens when a closet finally begins to reflect the person standing in front of it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s no question whose closet it is today. It\u2019s my closet.\u201d \u2014 Liz<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-spotify wp-block-embed-spotify wp-embed-aspect-21-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Spotify Embed: The Clothes That Earned Their Place\" style=\"border-radius: 12px; min-height: 9.5rem\" width=\"100%\" height=\"100%\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen allow=\"autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; fullscreen; picture-in-picture\" loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/embed\/episode\/0At3ZXdJyD5E2u770cmeym?si=khgnuzyoR3CsJa-69lQNhQ&amp;utm_source=oembed\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/0At3ZXdJyD5E2u770cmeym?si=cXfTkB1WQ36l3bFPqzd59Q\"><em><strong>Styled, Off Script<\/strong><\/em>,<\/a> is a podcast about personal style, fashion, and the real relationship we have with our clothes\u2014and how it evolves alongside who we are.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Powered by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/\">Dia &amp; Co<\/a>, each episode features candid conversations exploring style, identity, self-expression, and the real-life moments that shape how we get dressed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Also available on <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/46T7PvulaxMOSztIAPNQ1J?si=WMFqf7ilTRCrNA0lcAl8JQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Spotify,<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/styled-off-script\/id1896665863\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.iheart.com\/podcast\/269-styled-off-script-333749139\/\">iHeart<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/music.amazon.com\/podcasts\/a93632c3-4373-48bb-9435-61c1e3fc046c\/styled-off-script\">Amazon<\/a>, or to read the full transcript, keep scrolling.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Starting Lineup: Marge, Liz, and Maloree\u2019s Closet MVPs<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>No two starting lineups look exactly alike. That is what makes them useful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Marge\u2019s closet MVPs are often roomy, versatile, and capable of shifting between different versions of her life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1800\" height=\"1135\" data-pin-url=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/blog\/sos-podcast\/episode-7\/?tp_image_id=148577\"  data-pin-title=\"Marge\u2019s Closet MVPs: Denim, Shirting &#038; Strong Layers\"  data-pin-description=\"Marge\u2019s closet MVPs prove that essentials do not have to be boring. Her personal starting lineup includes hardworking denim, crisp button-downs, a black pleated skirt, a moto jacket, and versatile layers that move easily between different parts of real life. Explore more personal closet essentials in Episode 7 of Styled, Off Script.\" src=\"https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Marge.jpg\" alt=\"Marge\u2019s closet MVPs, including denim layers, a pleated skirt, striped button-down, white tee, and moto jacket.\" class=\"wp-image-148577\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Marge.jpg 1800w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Marge-300x189.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Marge-1110x700.jpg 1110w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Marge-768x484.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Marge-1536x969.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Marge-1386x874.jpg 1386w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1800px) 100vw, 1800px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Her oversized denim jacket can go over a dress, work with sandals, or make an easy outfit feel more intentional. Button-down shirts have remained a constant for roughly 15 years, moving from winter flannels to lightweight summer linen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then there are the pieces that do not work quite as hard but hold something just as important: joy. Her rainbow sequin jacket may not belong in the weekly rotation, but it takes her back to a Harry Styles concert, cutoff shorts, sequined boots, and a very specific version of herself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Liz\u2019s closet has a denim jacket for nearly every mood, occasion, and weather report.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1800\" height=\"1136\" data-pin-url=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/blog\/sos-podcast\/episode-7\/?tp_image_id=148579\"  data-pin-title=\"Liz\u2019s Closet MVPs: Color, Caftans &#038; Worn-In Denim\"  data-pin-description=\"Liz\u2019s most-loved wardrobe pieces are colorful, collected, and full of history. Her closet MVPs include inherited caftans, worn-in denim, cutoff shorts, a joyful floral dress, and accessories with personality. See how sentimental clothes and everyday favorites can shape personal style in Episode 7 of Styled, Off Script.\" src=\"https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Liz.jpg\" alt=\"Liz\u2019s closet MVPs, including an inherited caftan, denim jacket, cutoff shorts, floral dress, and colorful tote.\" class=\"wp-image-148579\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Liz.jpg 1800w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Liz-300x189.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Liz-1109x700.jpg 1109w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Liz-768x485.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Liz-1536x969.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Liz-1385x874.jpg 1385w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1800px) 100vw, 1800px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Her current MVPs also include cutoff shorts, inherited caftans and robes from her grandmother, and a moto jacket she has owned since her son was born 13 years ago.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The moto jacket has dressed up, dressed down, collected scars, and adapted as the rest of her style changed. More importantly, it gives her an immediate sense of confidence and adds a little edge to the more classic parts of her wardrobe.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Maloree\u2019s hardest-working summer piece is a pair of black shorts that goes with nearly everything. Year-round, she returns to comfortable, trusted denim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1800\" height=\"1178\" data-pin-url=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/blog\/sos-podcast\/episode-7\/?tp_image_id=148580\"  data-pin-title=\"Maloree\u2019s Closet MVPs: Easy Dresses &#038; Everyday Comfort\"  data-pin-description=\"Maloree\u2019s closet MVPs are comfortable, uncomplicated, and ready for real life. Her starting lineup includes black cargo pants, an easy navy dress, a striped tee, soft everyday tops, and shorts that work with nearly everything. Discover how to identify the closet essentials you genuinely enjoy wearing in Episode 7 of Styled, Off Script.\" src=\"https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Maloree.jpg\" alt=\"Maloree\u2019s closet MVPs, including black pants, a navy dress, striped tee, ivory top, and navy shorts.\" class=\"wp-image-148580\" srcset=\"https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Maloree.jpg 1800w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Maloree-300x196.jpg 300w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Maloree-1070x700.jpg 1070w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Maloree-768x503.jpg 768w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Maloree-1536x1005.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/d3mnyo7e05c2kb.cloudfront.net\/blog-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/July-SOS-Podcast-Ep-7-blog-moodboard-Maloree-1335x874.jpg 1335w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1800px) 100vw, 1800px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Her closet also contains a different kind of MVP: sentimental dresses connected to weddings, milestones, and meaningful moments. She may not wear all of them now\u2014and some no longer fit\u2014but their emotional value makes editing them a little more complicated than simply asking when they were last worn.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m just going to dress in what makes me feel good and what I like.\u201d \u2014 Maloree<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Does Everyone Need the Same Closet Essentials?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The hosts\u2019 answer is a fairly immediate no.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A traditional capsule wardrobe usually begins with the idea that a small group of universally useful pieces can work for almost anyone. But usefulness depends on the person.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A structured office dress is not essential when you do not work in an office. A white button-down is not helpful when it never feels like you. A closet filled with perfectly coordinated neutrals may make one person feel calm and another feel like all joy has left the building.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Closet essentials should reflect:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>How you spend your time<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>What makes you physically comfortable<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The level of variety you enjoy<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The silhouettes and colors that feel like you<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The amount of decision-making you want from your clothes<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The memories and meaning attached to what you wear<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>The goal is not to reject simplicity. It is to make simplicity personal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Try an Outfit Formula Instead<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>An outfit formula offers some of the ease of a capsule wardrobe without prescribing the same clothes to everyone.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A formula is simply a combination that reliably works for you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It might be:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>A button-down shirt + wide-leg pants<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A favorite dress + an unexpected jacket<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>One bold color + one print<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Trusted jeans + a new top silhouette<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>A casual base + a more polished third piece<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>The exact formula matters less than knowing why it works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once you recognize it, you can create new versions from the clothes you already own. You are not rebuilding your wardrobe every morning. You are playing matchmaker.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cI like playing matchmaker in my closet.\u201d \u2014 Liz<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">This Week\u2019s SOS: My Closet Is Full, but I Wear the Same Five Outfits<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>This week\u2019s Style Emergency came from the hosts themselves:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong><em>My closet is full, but somehow I still end up wearing the same five outfits every week. I do not necessarily want to buy a whole new wardrobe\u2014I just want to feel excited to get dressed again. How do I figure out what is working, what is taking up space, and where to begin?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">1. Follow the repeat wear<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Start with what you already reach for.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Which pieces are consistently clean, comfortable, and easy to style? What do they have in common? Pay attention to fabrication, shape, color, length, and how they fit into your real schedule.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Your repeat outfits are giving you information.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">2. Put the clothes on your body<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Something can be beautiful and still not belong in your closet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Try it on. Sit down. Walk around. Reach for something on a shelf. Notice whether you immediately begin adjusting, pulling, smoothing, or negotiating with it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Discomfort does not become more useful because the item looked promising on the hanger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">3. Name your formulas<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Look at the outfits you wear most and identify their structure.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Maybe you consistently pair a roomy top with a wide-leg bottom. Maybe you rely on a dress and a third piece. Maybe everything starts with jeans and changes through shoes, color, or accessories.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once you know the formula, you can introduce variation without abandoning what already works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">4. Add one new player<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Refreshing your style does not require replacing your entire closet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A different jacket, new shape of top, unexpected color, or more current bottom can create several new combinations when it works with the MVPs you already own.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The new item becomes the bombshell entering the villa. The trusted pieces help it settle in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">5. Keep a giveaway bag nearby<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Liz keeps a donation bag in her closet and adds to it in the moment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When she tries something on and realizes she is not only avoiding it today but is unlikely to wear it again, it goes into the bag instead of disappearing back into the closet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This makes editing an ongoing habit rather than one enormous, emotionally exhausting project. It also makes genuine wardrobe gaps easier to notice.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Find the Closet Essentials That Work for You<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Sometimes you know exactly what is missing. Sometimes you only know that getting dressed has become repetitive, frustrating, or disconnected from your current life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Dia Core Four Essentials Boxes offer four places to begin.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Choose the area of your wardrobe that needs support, and a stylist will curate five pieces around your style, fit preferences, lifestyle, and feedback. Try the pieces at home, keep what you love, and send back the rest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Boxes are available anytime, feature an ongoing rotation of new arrivals, and do not require a subscription.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-not-stacked-on-mobile is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-1 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text is-stacked-on-mobile is-vertically-aligned-center\" style=\"grid-template-columns:62% auto\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-everyday-essentials-box\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.dia.com\/image\/upload\/f_auto\/v1776121792\/Apr_Everyday_Essentials_Box_thumb-e5c0045149cfabeb738a17d3da3d3660.jpg\" alt=\"Everyday Essentials Box with casual tops, denim, relaxed pants, and a neutral handbag.\"\/><\/a><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Five classic, comfortable styles designed to work across the everyday parts of your schedule.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-everyday-essentials-box\">Order Yours<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text is-stacked-on-mobile\" style=\"grid-template-columns:61% auto\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-work-ready-essentials-box\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.dia.com\/image\/upload\/f_auto\/v1783628746\/Apr_The_Work-Ready_Essentials_Box_thumb_1-d8b59b57b1c292185ae5c849b0077cb7.png\" alt=\"Work-Ready Essentials Box with a blazer, button-down shirt, jeans, trousers, and flats.\"\/><\/a><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Five versatile pieces for in-office days, remote work, presentations, commutes, and everything in between.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-work-ready-essentials-box\">Order Yours<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-not-stacked-on-mobile is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-2 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text is-stacked-on-mobile\" style=\"grid-template-columns:62% auto\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-dressed-up-essentials-box\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.dia.com\/image\/upload\/f_auto\/v1776121792\/Apr_The_Dressed_Up_Essentials_Box_thumb-7bf387d7db2786d09ff1e8d610843d9b.jpg\" alt=\"The Dressed-Up Essentials Box\nEffortlessly elevate your look with versatile pieces that can be dressed up or down for any occasion.\nWhat to expect:\nTrendy dresses &amp; jumpsuits\nChic blouses\nElevated denim\nVersatile layering pieces\"\/><\/a><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Five flexible pieces that can be dressed up or down depending on the occasion and the rest of your closet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-dressed-up-essentials-box\">Order Yours<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-media-text is-stacked-on-mobile\" style=\"grid-template-columns:62% auto\"><figure class=\"wp-block-media-text__media\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-weekend-essentials-box\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\" noreferrer noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/media.dia.com\/image\/upload\/f_auto\/v1776121792\/Apr_The_Weekend_Essentials_Box_thumb-3d64dcbaf6042fe01b820a94605d21e4.jpg\" alt=\"The Weekend Essentials Box\nFive curated styles just for you with laid-back looks that are perfect for off-duty days.\nWhat to expect:\nCasual Basics\nComfortable Layers\nClassic Denim\nLaid-back Essentials\"\/><\/a><\/figure><div class=\"wp-block-media-text__content\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Five laid-back styles for off-duty days, casual plans, errands, and slower moments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\"><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/themed-style-boxes\/the-weekend-essentials-box\">Order Yours<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>The Core Four can become the starting lineup. Dia\u2019s rotating limited-edition <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/style-box\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Themed Boxes<\/a><\/strong> offer trend-forward, seasonal ways to introduce something new when the reliable favorites could use a little more energy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Want to Build Your Wardrobe Over Time?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Core Four boxes are designed to help you refresh a specific part of your closet without committing to a subscription. But sometimes, what you really want is a little more guidance\u2014and someone who can help you see how all the pieces fit together.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>With a Dia &amp; Co <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/account_settings\/style_plan\/compare\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Style Plan<\/a><\/strong>, you\u2019ll work one-on-one with a stylist each month to build a wardrobe around your real life, evolving preferences, and personal style. It\u2019s less about starting over and more about finding the next right pieces for the closet you already have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-horizontal is-content-justification-left is-layout-flex wp-container-core-buttons-is-layout-1 wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button has-custom-width wp-block-button__width-50 is-style-fill\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link wp-element-button\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dia.com\/account_settings\/style_plan\/compare\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Explore Style Plans<\/strong><\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019ve got to bring in a bombshell.\u201d \u2014 Maloree<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Best Closet Essentials Have Earned Their Place<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>A useful closet does not have to be minimal. It does not have to follow someone else\u2019s list. It does not have to look like anyone else\u2019s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It simply needs enough pieces that make getting dressed feel possible\u2014and enough room for your style to keep evolving.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Start with the clothes that already show up for you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then decide who deserves to join the team next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity is-style-dots\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Got a style dilemma?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We\u2019re taking real SOS submissions for future episodes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Whether you\u2019re:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>packing for a trip<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>stuck in a style rut<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>navigating a wardrobe change<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>or just not sure what to wear<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/docs.google.com\/forms\/d\/e\/1FAIpQLSeH_EiPgGlRYHnA6k4vHO_--QVljCeIj0-jFjrK-g_CSfZxAw\/viewform?usp=header\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>Submit your own SOS request<\/strong><\/a> and we may feature it on the show!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<details class=\"wp-block-details is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary><strong>Click for the Full Episode 7 Transcript.<\/strong><\/summary>\n<details class=\"wp-block-details has-white-background-color has-background is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Welcome back to SOS.&nbsp;We&#8217;re&nbsp;here for episode 7, lucky number 7. I am Marge, joined by Liz and Maloree.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;So glad to be back.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;really excited&nbsp;because we are talking about closet MVPs, the pieces we&nbsp;couldn&#8217;t&nbsp;live without. I think&nbsp;we&#8217;ve&nbsp;teased a lot of these out in the past. And now&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;having a whole episode dedicated to our closet favorites, the go-to pieces, the essentials, or a phrase I use a lot, elevated essentials. And&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;because we all have them, and\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;[laugh]&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Not&nbsp;everybody&#8217;s are&nbsp;the same, but&nbsp;I think there&nbsp;are some that are&nbsp;probably more&nbsp;shared common across the others.&nbsp;So&nbsp;to kick us off, I would ask first, is there a piece that you would call an essential, or call your MVP, the piece you wear most often? Is there,&nbsp;like,&nbsp;a go-to in your closet right now? Is it seasonal?&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Maloree,&nbsp;you&nbsp;wanna&nbsp;start this time?&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Hang\u2014sorry. My child just walked in here and, like, scared the crap out of me.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;The reality of recording a podcast. I love that.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh, man. Okay,&nbsp;repeat&nbsp;again, sorry.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Is there a piece in your closet that you wear the most often these days? Is it seasonal? Have you had it for a while?&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I think mine&nbsp;definitely&nbsp;seasonal because I have been wearing the crap out of a pair of Madewell shorts lately, just because I love the length of them. And I know&nbsp;I&#8217;ve&nbsp;talked about it before, but I just love the quality of Madewell jeans. They last forever.&nbsp;But those are definitely the pieces working the hardest right now.&nbsp;They&#8217;re&nbsp;black, and it just goes with everything. But then,&nbsp;like,&nbsp;year-round, I also have a pair of Madewell jeans that I like to roll up during the spring and when&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;warmer. And then I roll them down when&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;cold.&nbsp;So definitely, like, a good pair&nbsp;of, like,&nbsp;nice-fitting jeans that are comfortable. Because if&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;not comfortable,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;not wearing it ever.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;So worth it. Period. I love that. Liz, how about you?&nbsp;What&#8217;s&nbsp;your go-to?&nbsp;The&nbsp;piece you wear most often?&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah, well, I will go with, um, seasonal as well. Um, I am a girl who loves a pair of cutoff shorts in the summer.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Hard same.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;So I just\u2014I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;care.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;not&nbsp;a brand&nbsp;loyalist. Um, I just like a good-fitting pair of cutoff shorts.&nbsp;Probably the&nbsp;more&nbsp;raggedy, the better, to be quite honest. The more broken-in, the better. And then year-round,&nbsp;I think Maloree&nbsp;probably mentioned&nbsp;that in an earlier podcast, but I am known for a denim jacket. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;it is my layering piece of choice. Um, I have&nbsp;many a&nbsp;different denim&nbsp;jacket&nbsp;depending on my mood, my attire, where&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;going, and the weather. And, um, but&nbsp;I am&nbsp;often with a denim jacket in tow.&nbsp;So that is definitely what works hardest in my wardrobe.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;It is&nbsp;mind-boggling&nbsp;to me that&nbsp;people that&nbsp;say, \u201cI already have a denim jacket,\u201d and then they can just, like, live their life.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know what that means.&nbsp;That&#8217;s&nbsp;not in my vocabulary.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;either. I have multiple, and each&nbsp;serve&nbsp;a very different&nbsp;function. And I love them all.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Correct. Correct. Correct. And&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;always looking for more.&nbsp;Somehow&nbsp;I never have enough. I never have the one that I, like,&nbsp;actually need&nbsp;for what&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;wearing.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Totally. I&nbsp;wanna&nbsp;react to the cutoff denim shorts because I was doing my nightly before-bed doom scroll recently, like every night, and I\u2014somebody posted. This is not a take that I agree with, but I think&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;maybe&nbsp;interesting to talk about. They were talking about how women of a certain age and of a certain size&nbsp;shouldn&#8217;t&nbsp;wear cutoff denim shirts. There are shorts,&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;not for you. If&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;X, if you weigh whatever, you&nbsp;shouldn&#8217;t&nbsp;wear this. And it got me&nbsp;real&nbsp;heated and angry. And then I went to the comment section, and there were so many people fighting too. And I was like, okay, I could go to bed now.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I wish you can see my face right now.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Good.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Well\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;You&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;have to wage war. Someone was doing it for you. I love that.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;No! It was\u2014it was weird because obviously it was, like, a rage-bait post to get people&#8217;s engagement\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014and it definitely did that, and then the comment section very quickly was like, nah, this isn&#8217;t the take, nope.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Great. Great. Great.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I was like, great, I can go to sleep, good night.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;I love that for you. Sweet dreams.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Why are we policing people&#8217;s bodies? I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;get it.&nbsp;Like, I&nbsp;love cutoff denim shorts. I&nbsp;actually just&nbsp;bought a pair that are drawstring\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Ooh. Yes.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Though,&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;really wide-leg, and they&nbsp;kind of feel&nbsp;like something that you would find in a toddler&nbsp;section, but&nbsp;made for plus sizes.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I know exactly what&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;talking about.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;And I mean, lately, because I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;have my full closet here where&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;currently&nbsp;residing, at my parents, they have become, like, my go-to summer staple shorts, and&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;so comfortable.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. I\u2014I\u2014I must admit that I\u2014and I think I may have spoken about this&nbsp;actually in&nbsp;our first podcast\u2014I&nbsp;steered clear of&nbsp;shorts, for whatever reason, for&nbsp;a very long&nbsp;time. Um, and then I was very self-conscious in shorts, and I am not sure what it was, but\u2014well, yes, I am sure what it was. We moved about six years ago to the hottest place on Earth. What I believe to be the hottest place on Earth. And for my own survival, I realized I had to wear shorts. Um, and I am so glad that I allowed\u2014I gave that gift to myself because, one,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;just a happier person.&nbsp;And,&nbsp;two, you know, I\u2014I feel&nbsp;good&nbsp;rocking shorts, specifically jean short\u2014denim shorts. But, um, I\u2014I think that&nbsp;is just such a strange, like, barrier I put on myself. I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know why I decided I&nbsp;couldn&#8217;t&nbsp;wear shorts. I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know why I decided that they&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;look cute on me.&nbsp;But it was definitely something\u2014it was a barrier that I inflicted on myself.&nbsp;And it was also a barrier I alone had to remove from myself. And I am so, so glad I did.&nbsp;And I think it&#8217;s really important for my kids to see me in shorts and, very honestly, I live a happier life now that I wear shorts.&nbsp;And I live\u2014I\u2014I wear shorts in the&nbsp;summer&nbsp;probably 90 percent&nbsp;of the time.&nbsp;So&nbsp;it has had a real impact on who I am.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I love that.&nbsp;Absolutely&nbsp;love that. Shorts are very&nbsp;freeing.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yes.&nbsp;Yeah,&nbsp;yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;And, yeah, I don&#8217;t know what I would do without shorts.&nbsp;Do you have, um\u2014is maybe one of your&nbsp;other, like, MVPs a piece that has nostalgia, or is, like, an old piece of clothing that you carry with you that you could never donate or get rid of? Is that something you wear all the time, or is that sort of preserved to the back of the closet, enshrined in its own heavenly corner?&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I feel like&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;my entire closet.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay, say more on that.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Do you\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;just one that, like, holds a lot of\u2014I&#8217;m&nbsp;a very sentimental person.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I hold on to things that, like,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, \u201cThis happened in this\u201d\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Or, like, especially dresses I feel like is even more because I\u2014I think a lot of my, like, big events happen in dresses, like special occasions and stuff like that.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I hold on to them, and I, like, never wear them.&nbsp;So&nbsp;they&#8217;re&nbsp;just there. And a lot of them&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;even fit anymore.&nbsp;So&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;like,&nbsp;I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know why&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;holding on to this.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;just here taking up valuable space as I have a pile of new stuff I need to put up. But I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know.&nbsp;I d\u2014I definitely hold on to things that are sentimental because that&#8217;s just me, I guess.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;a little&nbsp;sap.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I definitely have that.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;I\u2014I have a lot of my grandmother&#8217;s clothes, um, specifically caftans and robes. And I\u2014I will&nbsp;say,&nbsp;I am proud to say that they&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;just sit there. I do make use of them. I wear them. They are part of my regular rotation.&nbsp;<br>I have both winter and summer caftans and bathrobes that I make my way through on a regular rotation. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;I try my best to take&nbsp;very good&nbsp;care of them. Um, not to the same level that she did, unfortunately. We are&nbsp;operating&nbsp;under different budget constraints. Um, and\u2014but yes, I do wear them, and I love them, and they mean a lot to me.&nbsp;Um, but I think that they wouldn&#8217;t have quite the same meaning if they just sat in my closet unworn.&nbsp;So, so&nbsp;yeah,&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;something that I\u2014that I think about quite a bit.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I aspire to be Liz&#8217;s grandmother one day.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I think. Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Everyone aspires to be my grandmother.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah, I could do with a couple of caftans. That feels the vibe I&#8217;m trying to bring to the function. I&#8217;m with you, Mal. Like, I have quite a few dresses that I&#8217;ve worn to close friends&#8217; weddings that were just so much fun that wearing them or even just, like, looking at them makes me really happy. And there was a period of time, and I think I may have talked about this previously, where I had a really nice clothing rack in the middle of my home office, second sort of little area, where I hung my most favorite pieces and also, like, the most loud sort of crazy pieces that I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily wear on a daily basis. And it was, uh, it was during COVID where, like, I was wearing comfy clothes and T-shirts and pajamas all the time, but I wanted my clothing to, like, remind me of more exciting times and then sort of, \u201cWe&#8217;ll get outside one day.\u201d And I had a lot of those dresses or pieces that I really loved. Like, sometimes\u2014I mean, I have this great rainbow sequins jacket that I bought. I don&#8217;t know if I bought it for my birthday. I don&#8217;t think I bought it for really any occasion. I just was like, \u201cWell, that&#8217;s crazy and fun. Why not?\u201d And I ended up wearing it to see, uh, Harry Styles at MSG. And I wore it with cutoff denim shorts and these fun sequined boots. And that&#8217;s so not an outfit that I think I would ever, like, recreate, but for that moment was really, really fun. And so that sort of has that nostalgia that I don&#8217;t ever want to get rid of it because it sort of takes me back to that\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014that concert. And I don&#8217;t know, I think it&#8217;s fun to see how, yes, you obviously wear typically one, maybe two outfits a day, if that, but yet we always have so many clothes. Is there something, Liz\u2014you mentioned shorts being something that you didn&#8217;t think\u2014like, you resisted for a long time and eventually embraced.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Still nothing here.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Is there anything else that you never thought you would like, but then&nbsp;you&#8217;ve&nbsp;come to&nbsp;not just like, but now has become an essential that you wear all the time or one of your favorites?&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;I mean, I would say&nbsp;basically my&nbsp;entire wardrobe\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014is\u2014is a s\u2014is a style now that I did not think I would ever wear. And\u2014and part of that is because my style is so my own. And, well, okay, so I grew up in Southern California and then I lived my young adult life, early married life, on the East Coast. And I was going into the office like everybody. And I just had, like, a very clear picture on\u2014and we talked about this a little bit last week in, like, early career, or last time in early career\u2014of how I thought I wanted\u2014I was going to dress. And it was very, like, refined, and it was very, like, based on how other people dressed. Like, I&nbsp;identified&nbsp;how I would dress so clearly based on other people. And so\u2014and there was just not a lot of&nbsp;creativity,&nbsp;I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;think, to how I dressed. And\u2014and now, it&#8217;s not that I\u2014I don&#8217;t think I dress, like, particularly flashy or crazy, but I definitely make a lot of choices in how I dress. And so I wear a lot of shapes, in particular, that I think I steered clear of for a really long time. So I&#8217;m 5&#8217;3&#8243;. I have larger hips, a big bust, and short legs. And I think, like, because of that, for the majority of my life, like, oversized clothing was not something that I ever considered wearing. And I would say most of the time now you see me in a wide-leg pant or an over\u2014like, sort of, hate to say it again, but a maxi nap dress, or some sort of, like, oversized T-shirt dress or an empire-waist dress, something that has little to no shape is basically what I&#8217;m getting at. And that&#8217;s my style of choice right now. And I think that probably every style guide would tell you that that is not, quote-unquote\u2014I hate this word\u2014flattering, um, on me. And yet\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;[laugh]&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014I love the way that that looks on me, and I think that it works.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I\u2014I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know if that answers your question, Marge, at all.&nbsp;But all of those p\u2014those are the pieces right now that are filling my wardrobe, and those are things that I would not have reached for five, 10, 15 years ago.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. And I think&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;a beauty of personal style. And I may be, like, deep in the, \u201cWhat are we doing for our fall campaign?\u201d and,&nbsp;like,&nbsp;marketing planning this week,&nbsp;&#8217;cause&nbsp;that&#8217;s what&#8217;s on my work calendar and what I&#8217;ve been spending a lot of my time thinking about. But really, the freedom and the autonomy in choosing your own style and having an opinion on your own style, as opposed to being told what to wear or being so heavily influenced by other people on what to wear, that is really exciting to me, especially as someone who grew up in my teenage years and early adulthood didn&#8217;t have a whole lot of options and couldn&#8217;t have a real strong opinion because there just wasn&#8217;t the options available. So being able to work for a company and run this&nbsp;business that&nbsp;is&nbsp;really true&nbsp;to our core, helping other people unlock their personal style. Like, obviously, we have an amazing group of stylists who are here and happy to give style advice and give recommendations. And if you want someone to&nbsp;sort of hold&nbsp;your hand or be that friend to help elevate and\u2014and coach you through it, absolutely.&nbsp;But it&#8217;s also really exciting when people start to determine what they want for themselves and have that evolution, and they sort of take the power back into their own hands.&nbsp;And it&#8217;s awesome. It&#8217;s awesome to see. I would say, Liz, you dress so creatively, and your personal style is such a strong reflection of who I know you to be. There are\u2014I have various friends that are like that. Then instantly you&#8217;re like, \u201cThat&#8217;s a total\u2014like, that&#8217;s a total blank outfit,\u201d or, \u201cThat&#8217;s a total Liz outfit,\u201d or, like\u2014and it almost is\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Uh-huh.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014um, kind of you, even if you&#8217;re not there. I see something, I&#8217;m like, \u201cAh, that makes me think of Liz. That&#8217;s awesome.\u201d&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Well, I\u2014and I think that that&#8217;s\u2014that&#8217;s one of the reasons I was excited for today&#8217;s topic, because I think it&#8217;s taken me a really long time to get there. And if you looked in my closet today versus 10 years ago, you would see a very, very, very different closet. But I think that my closet today is very, very reflective of who I am. Ten years ago, it wasn&#8217;t. Like, it could have been somebody else&#8217;s closet. And it didn&#8217;t mean that when I got dressed, I didn&#8217;t look like myself.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;But not everything in it was reflective of who I am. And today it is much, much\u2014there&#8217;s no question whose closet it is today. Like, it&#8217;s my closet.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Has anything stayed from then to now?&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;The jean jackets, I think.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;The caftans and the jean jackets are consistent.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah, yeah. Mal, anything for you? I know you&#8217;ve talked a lot about your style journey and how it&#8217;s evolved. Is there anything that&#8217;s in your closet that has been around for a while that still remains, like, a forever, a forever piece?&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I honestly\u2014like, I was thinking about it, and I don&#8217;t think so. I feel like I&#8217;ve really gone through, like, an overhaul within the past few years, and I think it&#8217;s just\u2014I think it stems from really becoming more comfortable in who I am. And like Liz was saying, like, my closet reflects me. And I think that really took time because I, too, was the same way. Like, I was dressing based on, you know, what people were saying I should wear or, like, I just\u2014I was conforming to the idea of what I was being told I should look like and dress like. And I&#8217;ve just, like, decided I don&#8217;t care anymore, and I&#8217;m just gonna dress in what makes me feel good and what I like. And I don&#8217;t care if it breaks any of the style rules, quote-unquote, you know, What Not to Wear, whatever. Like, and I think that&#8217;s\u2014like, as Liz was talking, the more I thought about it, I think it just comes from, like, becoming more confident in yourself, in who you are and how you want to portray yourself. And I think that&#8217;s\u2014so, no, to answer your question, there&#8217;s not anything that has really stayed other than a good pair of jeans. The styles have changed because I was, like, ride-or-die skinny jeans, and those are still in my closet, but I have embraced more wide-leg and, like, things that I&#8217;m comfortable in and love the way that I look in. So, yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm. What about you, Marge?&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I think definitely the denim jacket, but the evolution of the denim jacket has definitely changed from what I had before. I think probably 10 years ago, I had a cropped, just under my bust, cropped, tighter-fitting denim jacket that I think I, like, stitched patches on and sort of embroidered in fun ways. It was, like, really, like, cutesy and\u2014and femme, and that&#8217;s great, and it then started to feel kind of constricting. My most recent, which I&#8217;ve now had, I think, for the last, like, five years, is, like, a very oversized, kind of\u2014I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s, like, got a lot of holes in it, but it&#8217;s definitely a distressed, lighter-wash, oversized denim jacket that I wear all the time. I feel like I can dress it up with a dress in my shoes and sandals, but it&#8217;s also not\u2014like, I could wear it almost anywhere and feel really good in it. And sort of that, like, oversized feeling makes me feel really, like, cozy and comfy. There was such a period of time, such a long period of time, where I feel like plus bodies were, like, told, \u201cOh, well, you shouldn&#8217;t be ashamed of your body. Wear tighter-fitting clothes and say, like, \u2018Who cares?\u2019\u201d Or\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I honestly, like, I was thinking about it, and I don&#8217;t think so. I feel like I&#8217;ve really gone through, like, an overhaul within the past few years, and I think it&#8217;s just\u2014I think it stems from really becoming more comfortable in who I am. And like Liz was saying, like, my closet reflects me. And I think that really took time because I, too, was the same way. Like, I was dressing based on, you know, what people were saying I should wear or, like, I just\u2014I was conforming to the idea of what I was being told I should look like and dress like. And I&#8217;ve just, like, decided I don&#8217;t care anymore, and I&#8217;m just gonna dress in what makes me feel good and what I like. And I don&#8217;t care if it breaks any of the style rules, quote-unquote, you know, What Not to Wear, whatever. Like, and I think that&#8217;s\u2014like, as Liz was talking, the more I thought about it, I think it just comes from, like, becoming more confident in yourself, in who you are and how you want to portray yourself. And I think that&#8217;s\u2014so, no, to answer your question, there&#8217;s not anything that has really stayed other than a good pair of jeans. The styles have changed because I was, like, ride-or-die skinny jeans, and those are still in my closet, but I have embraced more wide-leg and, like, things that I&#8217;m comfortable in and love the way that I look in. So,&nbsp;yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm. What about you, Marge?&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I think definitely the denim jacket, but the evolution of the denim jacket has definitely changed from what I had before. I think probably 10 years ago, I had a cropped, just-under-my-bust, cropped, tighter-fitting denim jacket that I think I, like, stitched patches on and&nbsp;sort of embroidered&nbsp;in fun ways. It was, like, really, like, cutesy and\u2014and femme, and&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;great. And it then started to feel kind of constricting. My most recent, which I&#8217;ve now had, I think, for the last, like, five years, is, like, a very oversized, kind of\u2014I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s, like, got a lot of holes in it, but it&#8217;s definitely a distressed, lighter-wash, oversized denim jacket that I wear all the time. I feel like I can dress it up with a dress and my shoes and sandals, but&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;also not\u2014like, I could wear it almost anywhere and feel&nbsp;really good&nbsp;in it. And sort of that, like, oversized feeling makes me feel&nbsp;really, like, cozy and&nbsp;comfy. There was such&nbsp;a period of time, such&nbsp;a long period&nbsp;of time, where I feel like plus bodies were, like, told, \u201cOh, well, you&nbsp;shouldn&#8217;t&nbsp;be ashamed of your body. Wear tighter-fitting clothes and say, like, \u2018Who cares?\u2019\u201d Or\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;more&nbsp;flattering to wear bodycon dresses and show it all, or if&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not showing\u2014like, if&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;wear shapewear, like, look thinner, whatever.&nbsp;Like, all these things where I felt like everything had to be really tightly fitted in order to fit in with what was available and what was, like, on trend then.&nbsp;And now, like, I really&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;want anything touching my body. And I just, like\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;No.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Especially in the heat.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Like, I want things big and billowy and roomy. And, like, I want to look put together, and I like to feel put together, but I\u2014the idea of putting on, like, a very tight bodycon dress is, like, the last thing that is exciting to me. Like, no thank you. And, like, for some people\u2014like, I say that to say, like\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;If that&#8217;s what you like to wear, go for it. I don&#8217;t care. Like, I don&#8217;t care. Wear whatever you want. For me, just not something that I want. Looking back at our essentials and our MVPs, are there any specific styles that either you have multiples in or you find yourself gravitating to? I know for me, I am such\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Right.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;A, like, button-down shirt person. I feel like I&#8217;ve always been a button-down shirt person for, like, the last 15 years, from flannel in the winter to big, flowy linen shirts in the summer, collared, not collared, half-button, part-button, short-sleeve, long-sleeve, in almost every color. Like, that is, I think, a piece that I have far too many, and I would not want to count. But is there any other, like, specific style that you would consider one of your closet MVPs?&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;I don&#8217;t have multiple of these because I don&#8217;t need multiple, but another MVP in my closet is definitely my moto jacket. Just, like, for longevity-wise, also, like, I&#8217;ve had it\u2014goodness, I got it when Ezra was born, so 13 years\u2014and I wear it\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yep. Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Every fall. I mean, I live in California, so it gets a lot of wear fall and winter and into early spring. It is my jacket, and I wear it with absolutely everything. So it is my casual jacket, it is my, like, going-out jacket, and it is my, like\u2014if I\u2014I hate to say this, but I wore it to my brother&#8217;s black-tie wedding when I needed a jacket because it was the appropriate jacket to throw on over my shoulders. I mean, it looked fantastic with my ball gown, I will say. And, you know, I have, like, a\u2014yeah, it was amazing. I have an amazing picture in my moto jacket at the end of the night. And I just\u2014I think it is\u2014it has worked so hard in my closet, and it just\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I&#8217;m actually sure it did. I feel like moto jackets look good with everything.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;I mean, it has the scars to show it, but&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;almost made it better. And I think&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;a piece that, I think, over the years, while the styles have changed,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;such a classic piece that it has&nbsp;sort of gone&nbsp;along with the&nbsp;sty\u2014with, as the styles have changed. So&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;okay. And like I said, I can dress it up, I can dress it down.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;just something that feels&nbsp;essentially me, also. It gives&nbsp;a little edge&nbsp;to some of my more classic styles because I do still have that little bit of me that, like, has that more refined look sometimes. But, like, I want to bring a little bit more edge into my outfits, and so by adding the moto jacket, it just instantly does that. And\u2014and I\u2014so I like to do that. I happen to be in Connecticut right&nbsp;now&nbsp;visiting my family. Mind you,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;summer, so I don&#8217;t have my moto jacket with me, but I can, you know, I can rock the Westport, Connecticut look and add a moto jacket and instantly feel more like myself when I&#8217;m here at other times of year. And&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;a confidence&nbsp;that I feel when I wear my moto&nbsp;jacket that\u2014that I know will make me feel more like myself.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I think&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;one piece that everyone should at least try on and wear on a night out.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Just as, like, a&nbsp;test, because&nbsp;it&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;have to even be a fancy one. It&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;even have to be&nbsp;a real leather&nbsp;one. There is something about it. We had talked about, a couple&nbsp;episodes&nbsp;ago, about the faking it till you make it, and it is really, really a powerful tool&nbsp;slash&nbsp;costume to put on. And instantly\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Totally.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;No. Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Totally.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Maybe not&nbsp;instantly. Give yourself, like, 15 minutes in a public place to, like, just, like, \u201cOkay, I feel okay, right? Like, it fits,\u201d you know, whatever. And tell me you&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;feel like a bad bitch after. Like, it is truly one of the most formative pieces in my closet, when I got my first moto jacket.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;It was like someone flipped a switch after a couple hours, and I was like, \u201cWho is this girl who has her whole life together, doesn&#8217;t take shit from anybody, like, instantly feels really cool without doing anything but putting on a jacket?\u201d&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;Yeah. And to your point, Marge, like, there are moto jackets at every price point. And\u2014and I\u2014I, what I love now is that, yes, there is the traditional, you know, leather or faux-leather moto jacket, but there are so many different fabrications now, whether it&#8217;s a suede moto jacket or a canvas moto jacket. You know,&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not really\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Every place for you.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014bound to a single&nbsp;option. And I think there really is something out there for everybody, but it is such a universally, like, versatile silhouette that I just really think that it&#8217;s something that can very easily fit into lots of different closets and be used in lots of different ways.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I reach for&nbsp;mine&nbsp;all the time.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;And, you know, even if it&#8217;s, like, a one time a&nbsp;year,&nbsp;it just gives you that little, like\u2014that&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;like, \u201cOh, okay. Okay.\u201d&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;like\u2014like Sandra Dee at the end of&nbsp;<em>Grease<\/em>.&nbsp;It&#8217;s&nbsp;just that little something that, like, \u201cWait, I had that girl in me the whole time. Okay, here we go.\u201d And it really is\u2014it sounds crazy, but it really does make a difference.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Yep. Yep. Exactly. You got it. Yeah. Totally.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Um, okay, I may start a little bit of a debate here.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Ooh, I love a debate.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Does everyone actually need closet essentials? Like, should everybody have a capsule wardrobe of the same 10 pieces? Should we all\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;No.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;No? Love that.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;No. I&#8217;m just\u2014like, it depends on your lifestyle, like, who you are, what you do. So you go and, like, look up 10 essential capsule wardrobe, you&#8217;re gonna get the same 10 items. That&#8217;s not gonna work for me. Like, I don&#8217;t need a dress\u2014like, a ponte black dress to wear to the office daily. That&#8217;s not my life. Like\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;That&#8217;s just not\u2014I\u2014I don&#8217;t think so. I think it&#8217;s very personalized to who you are. Now, could you make something of a capsule wardrobe kind of work? I think maybe for a short period of time. Definitely not, like, long-term, but you could definitely get pieces that mix and match and fit your lifestyle. I just don&#8217;t think that it works for everybody, and I think that&#8217;s okay.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm. I would also argue no. I think if a capsu\u2014I agree 1,000 percent with Maloree that everyone cannot have the same capsule wardrobe. And this idea where, like, these are the 10 essential pieces everyone needs in their wardrobe is 100 percent bullshit, except for maybe a denim jacket, um, says the queen of the denim jacket, but not the same denim jacket for everybody.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Cult. Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;And for myself, I will speak only for myself, but, like, the idea of living within a capsule wardrobe of any kind, like, I would spontaneously combust. Like, all joy would leave my soul. Even if I had my 10\u2014the 10 items that made me the happiest and were the 10 most-me pieces, I would be\u2014all joy would cease to exist, and I would be so sad.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;You\u2014yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;As someone who is currently traveling, I tried very hard. I packed for 12 days in a carry-on suitcase, and so all of my pieces mix and match. I have a color palette for my trip, and I did a very good job. I&#8217;m extremely proud of myself.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;You have a color palette for your trip.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yep. Yep. So I can mix and match. Um, I\u2014you\u2014I should do\u2014there should be a photo carousel to go with this podcast. Um\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;No one&#8217;s saying it. I love it so much. Wonderful. Yep.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yep. Yep. Um, I was\u2014this was, like, top, next-level. But that being said, I&#8217;m already sick of everything I brought with me, and I&#8217;m only halfway\u2014I&#8217;m not even halfway through my trip. And I just\u2014it&#8217;s just\u2014it&#8217;s\u2014I feel sad. I miss my clothes. My closet is one of my happiest places to be. I love visiting my friends there, and\u2014and I just\u2014I feel sad being so limited. And I\u2014like, this is gonna sound so pathetic. Oh my God, I can hear my dad making fun of me. I don&#8217;t care. I like playing matchmaker in my closet, and I like taking people on blind dates in my closet and forming new matches. And with a capsule wardrobe, relationships get old and stale really fast, and&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;no new matches. So that is what I have to say about a capsule wardrobe.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;Maybe it&#8217;s&nbsp;kind of like&nbsp;a&nbsp;<em>Love Island<\/em>&nbsp;situation, in which, like, because the pool of people is so small,&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;only so many matches you can make.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I was&nbsp;literally about&nbsp;to say.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Exactly.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;You&nbsp;gotta&nbsp;bring in bombshells.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Exactly. Well, I may or may not have sent myself a rental bombshell to enter the villa while&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;here.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Ugh. Or the OGs.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;sort of&nbsp;wishy-washy&nbsp;on this.&nbsp;I think there&nbsp;are some pieces that everyone needs, regardless of&nbsp;gender,&nbsp;age, but I also&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;think we should start a cult with it. I think&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;open to interpretation. And I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;know, for some reason this sort of brings me back to the people who were\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Hmm. Mm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014being inspired by Steve Jobs&#8217; outfit feels like insanity to me because it was a black turtleneck and black pants and whatever. That&nbsp;screams&nbsp;no joy. But the people who are like, \u201cWell, I wear the same thing every day because then I don&#8217;t have to think about it, and then, like, I save time and I&#8217;m efficient,\u201d and whatever, and I&#8217;m like, \u201cSo, you sound real boring, bro, and maybe you find other ways to enhance your personality. Debatable.\u201d&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;That sounds boring.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Um, but I think there are some pieces that, like, are just sort of core to, like, everyone. But also, if it doesn&#8217;t work for you, then, like, Maloree, to your point, like, if you don&#8217;t need a black ponte-knit dress because you&#8217;re not ever going to wear it, like, there&#8217;s no\u2014why do you have it? And so I think\u2014I think it, like, has to work for you. I do also understand that there are a lot of people who are different than the three of us are\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Right.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014and who want that prescriptive, like, \u201cHere&#8217;s what I wanna wear. I wanna wear, like, this-style top, this style\u2014\u201d Like, I totally understand and can see where that makes life really easy. Especially, like, as I&#8217;m currently living in a period of my life that is very complicated and everything&#8217;s changing, having limited clothing options\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Absolutely.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014in front of me and only being able to choose between, like, either this shirt or this shirt or this shirt, and these pants or shorts, like, does make life easier to then go out and get the day started and do what I need to do. Do I feel like part of the joy is ripped from me? Yeah, a little bit. But I think\u2014I think, like, if you want that prescription, if you want that\u2014if that&#8217;s something that doesn&#8217;t add value to your life\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Totally.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014you have other ways to get that, and, like, that&#8217;s your bag for personal style. And I think that&#8217;s what&#8217;s cool about it, is you can opt into it, but you can also opt out of it.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;So, speaking of happy medium, one of the things that I&#8217;ve recently subscribed to is this idea of, like, outfit formulas, which maybe that is just capsule re\u2014capsule wardrobes rebranded, but I do think it gives a little bit more personalization, a little bit more room for play. And it&#8217;s sort of this idea of, like, you figure out, or you learn with a stylist, what formulas work for you, and then you mix and match those formulas within your closet. So, speaking to, like, what you&#8217;re saying, Marge, of, like, you either have what you have, or you figure out what you like, and you work with what you&#8217;ve got to make new outfits or new mix-and-matchings and new pairings out of what you like or what you got. And\u2014and I like that because it means it&#8217;s going to be tailored more to you instead of this capsule idea, which feels very generic, or at least historically feels more generic and more, like, for everybody and for the masses. And\u2014and I think your outfit formulas can be as\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014and who&nbsp;want&nbsp;that prescriptive, like, \u201cHere&#8217;s what I&nbsp;wanna&nbsp;wear. I&nbsp;wanna&nbsp;wear, like, this-style top, this style\u2014\u201d Like, I totally understand and can see where that makes life&nbsp;really easy. Especially, like, as&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;currently living in a period of my life that is&nbsp;very complicated&nbsp;and&nbsp;everything&#8217;s&nbsp;changing, having limited clothing options\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Absolutely.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014in front of me and only being able to choose between, like, either&nbsp;this shirt or this&nbsp;shirt or this shirt, and these pants or shorts, like,&nbsp;does&nbsp;make life easier to then go out and get the day started and do what I need to do. Do I feel like part of the joy&nbsp;is ripped&nbsp;from me?&nbsp;Yeah, a little bit. But I think\u2014I think, like, if you want that prescription, if you want that\u2014if&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;something that&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;add value to your life\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Totally.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014you have other ways to get that, and, like,&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;your bag for personal style. And I think&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;what&#8217;s&nbsp;cool about it, is you can opt into it, but you can also opt out of it.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;So, speaking of happy medium, one of the things that I&#8217;ve recently subscribed to is this idea of, like, outfit formulas, which maybe that is just capsule re\u2014capsule wardrobes rebranded, but I do think it gives a little bit more personalization, a little bit more room for play. And&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;sort of this&nbsp;idea of, like, you figure out, or you learn with a stylist, what formulas work for you, and then you mix and match those formulas within your closet. So, speaking to, like, what you&#8217;re saying, Marge, of, like, you either have what you have, or you figure out what you like, and you work with what you&#8217;ve got to make new outfits or new mix-and-matchings and new pairings out of what you like or what you got. And\u2014and I like that because it means&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;going to be tailored more to you instead of this capsule idea, which feels very generic, or at least historically feels more generic and more, like, for everybody and for the masses. And\u2014and I think your outfit formulas can be as, like, complicated and as big as you want them to be.&nbsp;And so maybe your formulas start pretty small, but, like, if you&#8217;re\u2014if you&#8217;re more like us, then your formulas can be complicated and really involve lots of different numbers or whatever, or pieces.&nbsp;And if you&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;want them to&nbsp;involve&nbsp;that much, they&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;have to.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;So, Liz, what I think&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;trying to say is that we are mathematicians and scientists.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Duh!&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;And we should be paid more. Okay, cool.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Women in STEM.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Always, on all days.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;That&#8217;s\u2014that&#8217;s\u2014I have actually, when I first started as a stylist, often thought about styling as an equation. What are the options? Like, what is the A variable plus the B variable plus C, D, E to make a five-piece Style Box work most cohesively based on all of these constraints and controls? And it was\u2014it was, like, a fascinating puzzle to me, in which I understand that to other people that is very confusing and difficult, but I saw it more as a fun challenge and puzzle. Like, how do you get the shot on goal more often than not? And then to have people&#8217;s opinions and feedback come back to me to be like, \u201cYeah, the way you said this and this could go, and this and that\u2014\u201d&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Right.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yes, they see it. That&#8217;s the vision.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Well, and, like, I think you can use these formulas in a lot of different ways. So for&nbsp;me, like, one of the challenges I have, like we were just talking about, is, like, I love the pieces in my closet, but one of the challenges I have&nbsp;is&nbsp;I tend to wear the same three things every day. My shorts, for example. So, like, sometimes I will challenge myself with formulas, like, wear one piece with&nbsp;bold&nbsp;color and one piece with&nbsp;pattern.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;And so then I go into my closet and&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, \u201cLet&#8217;s pull one piece with bold color and one piece with pattern\u2014any piece, pieces\u2014and mix them together.\u201d Now, obviously&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;not going to work for everybody. That&#8217;s, like,&nbsp;a ridiculous\u2014what&#8217;s&nbsp;it&nbsp;called?\u2014equation to try to make for everybody. But for somebody else, that equation might be something more like, \u201cI love a button-down shirt, so my equation today is going to be a button-down shirt and\u2014\u201d&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;\u201c\u2014pants with a stripe.\u201d And so that is&nbsp;sort of the\u2014the logic that&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;going into my closet looking for and pulling those two pieces together.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;That&#8217;s awesome. I love that logic. It&nbsp;actually speaks&nbsp;to\u2014we&nbsp;didn&#8217;t&nbsp;have a new SOS, so shout-out: If you would like to be featured in an SOS coming up in the future, please&nbsp;submit&nbsp;an SOS. This one, I think, was&nbsp;sort of inspired&nbsp;by a conversation that the three of us had. But speaking to, we have closets full of clothes, but somehow keep wearing the same five outfits every week and wearing those same\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Literally.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014MVPs&nbsp;every week. I think your formula, and how to mix in or challenge yourself to wear something new from your closet that you already own, or maybe new for something\u2014like, add one piece new versus two pieces new into, like, mixing up those five outfits so that they feel a little different. Like, instead of buying a whole new wardrobe, you can add one or two new pieces, and somehow that then elevates multiple different outfits in your closet.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Right.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I love that. Is there anything that you would recommend, like, that people should evaluate when looking for or, like,&nbsp;identifying&nbsp;their closet MVPs or finding their essentials? Anything that, like\u2014what&#8217;s&nbsp;worth keeping?&nbsp;What&#8217;s&nbsp;worth replacing? Like, how do people&nbsp;identify?&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;sort of throwing some, like, last-minute questions here on how people can start to pay attention to their MVPs.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I feel like you really kind of have to go in and, like, Marie Kondo your\u2014your closet. Like, put it on your body. If you are sitting there fidgeting with it, get rid of it. Like,&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;feel comfortable in it. You need to make sure that&nbsp;what&#8217;s&nbsp;in your closet is stuff that&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;actually&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;wear. And if\u2014I\u2014I am very guilty of this, and I was&nbsp;actually working&nbsp;on cleaning out my closet this past weekend, and I was like, \u201cThis is so cute, though.\u201d But then I put it on, and&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, \u201cI&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;like it on me. Like, I just&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;feel comfortable&nbsp;in&nbsp;this. Why am I holding on to it?\u201d Because my life is not&nbsp;gonna, like, magically change to where this is&nbsp;gonna, like, fit me and fit my life in a way that makes sense. So, like, just get rid of it.&nbsp;There&#8217;s no\u2014there&#8217;s&nbsp;no sense in holding on to it.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I think that, for me,&nbsp;is, like, number one. Just go through\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh. Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014make&nbsp;sure that you feel comfortable in it. It&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;even really have to, like, work with everything else you have going on because, like you said, you can add new pieces here and there to make it work. But just, like, get rid of everything that&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;bring you joy, that&nbsp;doesn&#8217;t&nbsp;make you feel comfortable and&nbsp;make&nbsp;you feel like yourself. Just throw it out. Donate it.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Okay.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;I think&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;exactly right.&nbsp;I think sometimes people&nbsp;put a limit on, \u201cWell, I bought this, and I just&nbsp;haven&#8217;t&nbsp;worn it yet. And because I&nbsp;haven&#8217;t&nbsp;worn it yet,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;going to donate it because I&nbsp;haven&#8217;t.\u201d And for me, like, sometimes I buy something, and I may see, like, the vision of the one piece, but I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;see the vision of the whole outfit yet. And so\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014I feel this, like, outside pressure of, like, \u201cOh, well, you&nbsp;haven&#8217;t&nbsp;worn that, and you bought it. Like, what are you doing with it? It&#8217;s, like, not doing anything in your closet.\u201d But then I know myself well enough that, like, down the line&nbsp;I&#8217;ll&nbsp;be like, \u201cWhere was that plaid balloon-sleeve shirt that you bought last year and never wore but wanted to?\u201d And then there are other pieces that you do hold on to, that you wore&nbsp;once,&nbsp;you&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;feel comfortable in, and&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;like, \u201cYou know what? I\u2014\u201d I think sometimes&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;kind of like&nbsp;fostering and rescuing animals or pets.&nbsp;I want my clothes to live their best life, too, and I want someone to love them and give them the best experience that I couldn&#8217;t give, if I couldn&#8217;t give them that.&nbsp;And&nbsp;so&nbsp;there are some pieces that, while I love them dearly, I know&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;never going to wear and&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;really see myself wearing them again, that&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, \u201cNo\u2014\u201d&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u201c\u2014I&#8217;m&nbsp;okay. I can part with this. I&nbsp;want it&nbsp;to find joy somewhere else. We had a good run.\u201d And then I usually cry about it later, but&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, \u201cNo, no, no,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;fine. It was for the best.\u201d But I think that&#8217;s\u2014I think being able to have those, like, hard conversations. And I know a lot of people are like, \u201cI&#8217;m bringing in a friend or somebody else to, like, help me be objective,\u201d and I think if&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;helpful for you, then&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;fine. But I think\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;I love that.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014that often is\u2014I would\u2014I would not\u2014I don&#8217;t know if I would be able to be as truthful or honest because I think I&#8217;d want to, like, people-please that person, and\/or, like,&nbsp;be, like, too strict. Like, \u201cI don&#8217;t want to get every\u2014I don&#8217;t want to get rid of everything, but I do want to get rid of everything to, like, say that we did the thing,\u201d where you kind of have to, like, sit there and be like, \u201cOkay, it&#8217;s just me and me. What are we doing? Are we&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;wear this? Are we not?\u201d&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. I agree.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Make the decision. Um\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Right. I think doing&nbsp;it with some regularity&nbsp;is very important, too. Like, I just tend to get very overwhelmed, I&nbsp;find, if&nbsp;I&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;do it&nbsp;regular. Like, I just\u2014I keep a giveaway bag in my closet, and I will just, like, as&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;getting dressed, if I see something or&nbsp;I try&nbsp;something on and I, like\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah. Ooh,&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;smart.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014decide I&#8217;m not going to wear it, and I realize in that moment that not only am I not going to wear it today, but I&#8217;m probably not going to wear it ever, I will just add it to the giveaway bag in that moment rather than do, like, a massive cleanout. I mean, I still do massive cleanouts, but I sort of like to do it more in the moment because otherwise it goes back on the hanger and sort of goes into the abyss, and\u2014and I miss it in that moment. And I just\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;That&#8217;s so smart.&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014I find that if I do it in that moment,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;just, like, it\u2014it keeps me going. It keeps my closet&nbsp;more fresh and more manageable&nbsp;and more current, and me more accountable, and\u2014and I just&nbsp;sort of know&nbsp;what&#8217;s&nbsp;there, I guess, um, and where my holes are also. Like, if I put on a T-shirt and it has armpit stains on it or something, and then it goes\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Yeah.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014in the \u201cthis is not going to be worn anymore\u201d pile, I also know that I need to replace it in that moment, too, or whatever.&nbsp;So&nbsp;I do that.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;That&#8217;s super smart.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;I really love that. I will be adopting this practice because, like, I\u2014I don&#8217;t know why Andrew decided this weekend was a great weekend to do it, but he started it, and I was like, \u201cCrap, now I have to do it.\u201d But, like, going through all my stuff,&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;such a chore, and I hate that&nbsp;it&#8217;s&nbsp;such a chore. But this feels so much, like, easier, and it makes so much sense. Like, in that moment, just\u2014and then you&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;overthink it.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Such a chore.&nbsp;Yeah. You\u2014it&#8217;s\u2014right, exactly.&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;&#8216;Cause&nbsp;that&#8217;s&nbsp;also my problem. Like,&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;going through it, and&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;like, \u201cBut I could wear this,\u201d and then I end up keeping it, and then I never wear it.&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Exactly.&nbsp;&#8216;Cause&nbsp;then it&#8217;s\u2014it becomes so much of a bigger decision otherwise. I mean,&nbsp;don&#8217;t&nbsp;get me wrong, I&nbsp;do also&nbsp;go through things twice a year because, as I said, my closet is my favorite place, which means&nbsp;there&#8217;s&nbsp;a lot of stuff in it. And&nbsp;so&nbsp;I move my summer and winter clothes, like, in and out, and that is, like, an inherent time to go through everything. Um, but keeping the steady\u2014the steady stream of, \u201cI&#8217;m&nbsp;not wearing this.&nbsp;I&#8217;m&nbsp;never&nbsp;gonna\u2014\u201d&nbsp;<br><strong>Maloree<\/strong>&nbsp;Oh, boy.&nbsp;What&#8217;s&nbsp;it\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;\u201c\u2014this goes into the\u2014the bag of&nbsp;donate,\u201d does keep me more accountable. And I do the same with\u2014I\u2014the kids know they can just bring stuff in there also, which is\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;Such a great idea. Yep. I think&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;gonna&nbsp;document part of this idea and put it into the blog, which is where these episodes live, on dia.com\/SOS. But we will give some tips and tricks,&nbsp;maybe our&nbsp;favorite essentials, not saying that you need to, like, opt into those essentials. We do always have themed boxes that are essentials, so we have Work-Ready Essentials, Everyday Essentials\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Awesome.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014Night Out, or Dressed-Up Essentials, and Weekend Refresh Essentials.&nbsp;So&nbsp;if you are looking for your new MVPs or&nbsp;sort&nbsp;of looking for more guidance on where to start, we have those options. But take some time to play around in your closet and figure out what works for you. And&nbsp;we&#8217;re&nbsp;here to help you figure it out if&nbsp;you&#8217;re&nbsp;not sure where to start. But this has been&nbsp;really fun, and I may or may not be getting a Dia Box in the next few days, so\u2014&nbsp;<br><strong>Liz<\/strong>&nbsp;Mm-hmm.&nbsp;<br><strong>Marge<\/strong>&nbsp;\u2014we&#8217;ll&nbsp;have to talk about that&nbsp;on&nbsp;the next episode. But this is awesome. 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