Styled, Off Script<\/strong><\/a> wherever you get your podcasts.<\/p>\n\n\n\nTranscript has been lightly edited for readability and clarity.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\nClick for Full Episode 11 Transcript.<\/strong><\/summary>\nMarge<\/strong> We are live after a brief hiatus with episode 11 of Styled, Off Script. I’m Marge, and I’m joined by my co-host, Liz.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Hello.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> And Maloree could be on her way, potentially. We’ll see. And we’re joined by a guest. We finally have Carly on the podcast. Hi, Carly.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Hi. Happy to be here.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Oh my gosh, your ears must have been ringing. I don’t know how many episodes, if not all of them, we’ve mentioned Carly at some point, but specifically the topic of this episode we’ve mentioned several times. And so we are thrilled to finally have you on the podcast.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Me too. Thanks for having me.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah, of course.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> This feels very long overdue. And, like, I don’t know, I’m sorry if I’ve put the pressure on, but I’m very\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Ha ha.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014very excited that you’re here.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Hopefully this is, like, the most low-pressure, like, work-related-esque. Like, that’s sort of the whole point of this, is, like, how do we\u2014how do we create fun work for us that is, like, low stakes but still really fun and exciting and impactful? So\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> I mean, it started with a fun box full of denim to have a fun fashion show at home. So, great start. Great start.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> The dream.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> We were off to a good start. Awesome. Awesome.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> The dream. Awesome.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> So before we get into that fun box of denim, Carly, do you want to introduce yourself a little bit, share a little bit about your sort of journey to Dia & Co., what you do at Dia & Co., and about your style and\u2014and where your style takes you?\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Sure, sure. So I started at Dia & Co. when\u2014I always have to think about my son’s age. He was an infant, and he is about to turn nine. So I think it’s been at least\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Wow.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Oh my goodness.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014at least eight years. I started\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Whoa.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014as a part-time stylist, which was perfect as a new mom, and loved it immediately. And then a few months in, a leadership role opened up, and I have been kind of growing for years and learning from the best here. My current title is Senior Manager of Dia Styling and Customer Operations. So I work directly with all of our stylists. I connect with the customer service team regularly. I connect with our ops team regularly. So I kind of get to have my hand in all kinds of places, which is really fun and keeps it interesting, for sure. So yeah, I love it. I have two kids, and they certainly keep me busy. We’re involved in many sports. Some would say too many. It’s a lot of sports. It’s a busy schedule.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> I was gonna say, it’s a lot of sports, but it’s awesome.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> It is a busy schedule.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Baseball mom.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Baseball mom.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> We’re currently flag football mom. We’re currently dance mom. We’re cheer mom. We’re all the things.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> I was going to say cheer mom.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah, which\u2014that’s coming up soon. You’re right. Yep.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> There’s basketball mom too, I feel like I’ve seen. Okay.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Basketball mom. Yes. So my style kind of revolves a lot around that, honestly, because\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Okay.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014it’s, you know, as much as I love, like, my cuter clothes, I’m not gonna wear those to the baseball diamond all day, especially when I’m sweating. I know. So\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> What? Yeah. Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014you know, but you\u2014you need\u2014I\u2014I need both. You need the athletic, comfortable, you still feel cute when you’re at, you know, the basketball game. And then I need the fun, cute, like\u2014I mean, hopefully good denim, right? And some great tops and cute dresses for when I’m going out with my friends or dinner out. I would say I kind of tend to gravitate more towards a little bit of a boho vibe, a little bit of a, like, classic\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Hmm.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014I love, like, solids that are just, like, timeless. I love a layering moment. I have a lot of blazers. I feel like I don’t wear them enough. Yeah, I don’t know. I\u2014I think you kind of go through different\u2014as a mom, you kind of can lose your style a little bit. So I’m sort of figuring it out again as I, you know\u2014as life evolves, I guess.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> I think that, Carly, like, when I think of Carly’s style, I think of you as, like, the full Spice Girls group, depending on what you’re doing\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Oh my gosh, yes.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014and who\u2014what you’re\u2014who you’re spending time with and what you’re up to. Like, you are a different Spice Girl every time I see you. Like, you’re Sporty Spice at the game. You’re Ginger Spice when you’re, like, hanging out with your friends, like, having a girls’ night. I see you dressed up as Posh Spice when you go to a wedding. Like, you just\u2014I’m so impressed by it, the difference, the variety that you are able to bring to the table. I love it. Well\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> That is the best way it’s ever been described. I love that.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> There you go.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> That was awesome.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> I love that for me.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Ha ha.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> I also just have to mention, because she’s currently not here, but the fact that Maloree said earlier this week\u2014and I am gonna bring this on the pod\u2014that she only knows of the Spice Girls because\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Okay.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014of, like\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014pop culture because, quote, she was \u201ca little too young for them.\u201d\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah. Oh my gosh.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Oh my God. She\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> That\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014that broke me.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah, we say this with love. It’s okay. But it was like, okay, yep, sure. Yeah, yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> That’s hilarious. Yeah, punch to the gut.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> It was maybe\u2014perhaps because we were talking about our team Halloween costume prep. Was that Monday? Maybe it was, like, last week. We had a lot of really\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yes. Yes.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014crazy ideas, so stay tuned for that.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yes. We’ll\u2014we’ll\u2014we’ll narrow it down, and we’ll get back to you.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> I’ve had some very odd suggested Instagram ads and Amazon ads since that conversation, based on what we’ve searched. So\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> That’s great.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah. Should be interesting. Should be\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Amazing. I’ll\u2014I’ll take credit for that. Yeah.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014interesting. Carly, I’d love to know a little bit about\u2014you talked about sort of your style evolving. Is there an era of Carly or, like, an outfit of Carly that you really, really look back on and love, and you’re like, I wanna find ways to bring this back into the fold? Or\u2014or maybe an era that you were like, I’m staying as far away from that trend as possible.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Well, I\u2014I, you know, the baggy jeans, I feel like I tried at one point, and they just look silly on me. They’re so cute on so many people, but they’re just not for me. And I want to. I try again and again. It\u2014I just feel silly. I feel like not myself, I should say. But they look fantastic on the right people, and it’s just the cutest. But that is one I stay away from. Well, I don’t stay away. I try it on constantly, but I\u2014I don’t ever buy. So I guess I stay away in that sense. I would say my, like\u2014I have, like, a go-to piece that I’ve just always had. It\u2014it’s\u2014it’s changed over the years because, like, obviously, they wear out eventually. But I am a jean-jacket girl through and through and have been forever.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> I\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yep.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014love a jean jacket. And the one I wear all the time right now is, like, that oversized, kind of boyfriend feel. I dress it up\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yep. Wore mine this morning.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014dress it down. I just love it so much. And I’ll\u2014I\u2014I have forever. I’ve always been a jean-jacket gal.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> We all know how I feel about\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> I think it’s something that everybody\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014a jean jacket. Can’t go wrong.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah, yeah. I know I have f\u2014I know I’m with my\u2014my peers here.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yep. I\u2014I think it’s something that everybody needs in their closet, and maybe not just one.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah. Yeah, I have, like, five.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah. Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> But I have one that’s, like, the one I grab every time, you know? The go-to. Never does me wrong.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> The go-to. Yep, absolutely. Yeah, I threw mine\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Carly, you also\u2014sorry, you also have a fantastic T-shirt collection. I\u2014I just feel like\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014you have the right T-shirt for every occasion. And I’ve been lucky\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> So funny.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014enough to be\u2014be the recipient of a T-shirt or two from you as well. And I just feel like you\u2014your T-shirt game is really strong.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> That’s hilarious. I just had someone else tell me that too. I am a sucker for, like, a fun printed shirt. I\u2014I just got one recently that I’m sure you’ve all seen on TikTok or whatever, but it has, like, a golden retriever drinking a Starbucks iced coffee. It’s just, like, how\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> That’s\u2014that’s\u2014that’s great.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014can you\u2014and she’s, like, got sunglasses on, I think. And it’s just, like, how can you not get that shirt? It’s so cute. And then, again\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> How can you not?\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014tuck it in, wear it with the jean jacket. Done. Sold.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yep. Yep. I love that. Yeah, I wore mine this morning over a light sweater and black pants, and I felt so put together but probably felt like I was wearing, like, sweatpants or PJs. It was awesome. Big fan. Okay.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> So jealous.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Make me another comfort.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah, absolutely. And it is, like, a piece that you can go\u2014like, great for a more casual wedding, like, late at night over a dress, or you can\u2014you can do a million things with.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Well, as we’re on the topic of wearing with jeans, we were set out on an adventure or, like, maybe posed with a\u2014a problem question months ago. I think it was\u2014it could have actually been almost a year ago when we were all together, where Carly said, \u201cI hate shopping for jeans. I don’t own a pair of jeans I like. I refuse to wear them if I don’t have to.\u201d Something to the effect of, \u201cI just can’t find the right jeans.\u201d And I think Liz and I both said, challenge accepted. When can we send Carly jeans?\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Mm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> And we sort of, like, back-burnered it and said, yeah, we’ll wait for f\u2014we’ll wait for fall. We’ll wait\u2014we’ll wait for fall. That’s actually quite difficult to say. So while it is officially fall, we decided to send Carly a box of 10 different styles of jeans with the goal for her to try everything on. I made a scorecard to rank and rate all of the jeans that she tries on based on a bunch of different categories and fields, which we’ll talk about sort of as we go through, with the goal of Carly finding the perfect pair of jeans for Carly. And without sharing too much, like, because we want to kind of go through the process and talk\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Mm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014through the\u2014the different styles, but maybe, like, to get us started before sharing too much, Carly, did you find a pair of jeans out of the 10 that you love?\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Absolutely. And had so\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yes. She still got it.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014much fun trying them on. Had a little fashion show at home.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> I think there was also, like, one additional challenge that was not a requirement but was sort of a\u2014if you’re really up for a challenge and you want to really push yourselves as my stylists, I’d love to break out of skinny jeans because Carly\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> But yes, yes.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014what Carly’s, like, comfort is the skinny jean. You look fantastic in a skinny jean, and we did send you a few pairs of skinny jeans, right?\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> You did.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> But if\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> You did.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014possible, Carly wanted to find a new silhouette to add to her rotation. Okay.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Absolutely. I\u2014it’s my comfort style, and I\u2014I love when other people wear these cute boyfriend or bootcut or whatever and, like, switch up the look, including the denim. And I wanna be one of those people. So you guys helped me.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Challenge accepted.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Amazing. So let’s talk about the try-on process, maybe to, like, get us into it. I sent, like, a pretty robust scorecard and said, if this is helpful\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Hmm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014like, rank\u2014I think it was, like, the\u2014there are certain things that’s, like, waist, booty, hips, thighs, leg fit, length, rise, comfort, across all of the jeans, to really, like, better understand exactly where they fit. I think it was, like, part of the section called \u201cFit Check,\u201d of, like, how they fit in those different sections. Because I think what’s difficult in shopping for jeans, or what usually stands in the way of, \u201cI need to try on jeans,\u201d is that very rarely does one pair of jeans\u2014and I think that’s the struggle\u2014is, like, very rarely does one pair of jeans check all of those boxes, the first pair you grab at the store. Like, it’s usually, okay, well, I’m gonna make an exception here because of, you know, whatever reason. But in most cases, it’s like, well, the waist was too tight, and the legs fit great, and the rise was okay. But, like, if it doesn’t fit in this one section, that’s not gonna work. And then we also wanted to know your feel and function. So, were you able to sit comfortably with it? Were you able to move around? You are a very active person who does far more, like, peopling than certainly than I do. And you want to be able to, like, move around and do whatever you need to do with the kids and\u2014and your family and friends and, like, be out and about, but still be comfortable in them. Does the waistband stay where it’s supposed to be? How does the denim actually feel? And then, more importantly, like, does it\u2014like, do you like how they look? Do you like how they feel, like, you? Do you want to style them? Like, it would be useless to send you 10 pairs of jeans and have you be like, I don’t really want any of these. So I think we’re sort of rating all of these 10 pairs of jeans across the same three categories: fit, feel and function, and style. And it resulted in some very interesting results. Maybe we should start with the tried and true that we thought were going to be, like\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Mm-hmm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014the ones, or, like, the one that you’re most comfortable with was the\u2014the skinny jean to begin with. We did want to step sort of out of\u2014out of your comfort zone, but let’s start with your review of the skinny jeans. And maybe, are there any that you\u2014anything new that you learned about trying them on that you liked, or things you don’t like specifically for you?\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> You know, I was surprised that I\u2014I didn’t fall in love with any of the skinny jeans sent. Some of them had a great, like, comfortable\u2014the right amount of stretch, felt really good. I\u2014I just\u2014I\u2014I maybe I’m just ready to move on, and that was why. But\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014none of them were, like, perfect by any means. I had\u2014I\u2014I realized, I learned that, like, inseam, it’s\u2014there’s, like, a really awkward spot that I don’t care for. So I learned that.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> And, you know, I think most of mine are, like, pretty long, and sometimes I’ll roll them up or something. But yeah, definitely playing around with the inseam was, you know, you gotta try it on with the shoe and, like, the full look. And\u2014and it just\u2014none of them, none of them were just right. But yeah, I was a little surprised to not gravitate towards any of those. I guess my\u2014my mind’s made up. I’m ready for new styles.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> That’s great. I\u2014I think\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> I love that.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014I think one thing is that we talk about the fit of jeans because I’m sure, like, I know I struggle to find the right jeans. It’s sort of a common\u2014a common thing. Like, there are a lot of different places where jeans have to fit, or, like, you want them to fit well. And rise\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Mm-hmm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014and inseam and length and waist, it’s a lot. There’s, like, a lot of parts and pieces. So, for those that are sort of beginning a new jean journey, we can go through some of the terms there. But inseam is the length from the end of the cuff at the bottom of the jeans to where the jeans meet in the middle of the legs. The rise is from the, like, that spot up to the top band of the waist. So how high they come up to you on your waist or your hips is the rise. And then the inseam is from sort of where they\u2014where the legs split in the middle down to the\u2014the end. I used to get those flip-flopped, so\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Ha ha.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014I’m more so\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Ha ha.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014saying this out loud in case there’s anybody like me who’s like, wait, what? And then, obviously, the waist is\u2014is, like, how it fits on your waist. And depending on the rise and how tall they are up\u2014like, how high they come up on your rise, like high-rise, low-rise\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yikes.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014mid-rise, everybody’s body is different. And so, depending on\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Mm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014how you like your jeans, depends on\u2014on the rise may be different. So I think it’s interesting, sort of as more styles and\u2014and sizes and things sort of come out, it’s really\u2014I think I felt for years that, well, if these are the jeans that are trendy and this brand and this type is, like, the trendy brand\u2014brand\u2014and I don’t fit into that, then that’s on me. Where it’s like, no, girl. Like, just wasn’t the right rise or inseam or length. Like, it’s not that it didn’t fit. You just didn’t have the right\u2014the right combinations. It’s not just the number on this\u2014on the tag. There’s a million other things, and every brand is different. We sent you the same size across all of\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Mm-hmm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014these brands. Maybe that’s something else to talk about. Did you find\u2014we did send you the exact same size across, I think it was five or six different brands. No, actually seven different brands.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> The skinny jeans specifically, I think we sent you\u2014I was\u2014I was gonna ask a similar question. So in the skinny jeans specifically, I think we sent you three different brands, and I’m wondering\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yes.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014like, what did you find in terms of size and fit? Like, I under\u2014like, to Marge’s point, the inseam and the rise was maybe different. The wash was different in each of them. But, like, did you find consistency in size, or was there vast difference? And, like, did you learn anything from that?\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah, yeah. So I’ll speak to the skinny jeans specifically. But yeah, so there were three different brands, all the same size. And I will say that ELOQUII, in particular, super impressed with, like, the quality and the comfortable feel of their denim. I wanted to love it, and I wanted it to work. But it did run a\u2014a tad big on me.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Hmm.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> So I\u2014I, you know, I\u2014if I were in store, I would have absolutely tried another size down because it felt incredible. Really, really soft and comfortable. What else did I try? I tried a Slink jean\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014that fit okay. It was a little bit\u2014so part of my challenges are, I carry a little, like, my weight in, like, my belly area, and then I don’t have a butt, and my hips are a little bit more narrow. So it’s tricky because I\u2014it can get baggy in that area, but then, like, my waist, because I have to go up for my waist or whatever. So that’s a huge part of, like, my challenge. And so I will say the\u2014the Slink jean didn’t work great for me because I felt like I needed to have\u2014be a little hippier. So maybe\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Mm.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014our, like, more bottom-heavy customers would love a Slink jean. Really cute, like, wash. It was kind of\u2014it had a little distressing to it. That part was super cute, and the inseam was, like, perfect on me. But yeah, just the waist was just right, and then the\u2014the hips felt a little bit baggy for me.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> And remind me, you like a higher rise, right? Yep. Okay.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Love a high-rise. Yes. I am\u2014I have had two C-sections, so all the C-section\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014moms will be able to totally relate. But we love a high-rise. It kind of makes you feel more comfortable and protected and hides anything you didn’t\u2014you know, maybe a little C-section pooch, if you will. So\u2014which\u2014I\u2014go ahead.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Just gonna say, like, in terms of, you know, going to a store that has multiple brands or working with Dia & Co. that can send you multiple brands, I think the idea of, like, starting with a silhouette that you are already comfortable with\u2014so for you, skinny jeans\u2014and trying on a bunch of different brands to begin to understand, like, what you appre\u2014what works or what doesn’t work for you about those brands is, like, a really good place to start in your denim shopping journey. ‘Cause, like, I\u2014I don’t know. I’m very excited to find out where you ended up and what you loved, but I’m sort of guessing that the brands that, like, you grav\u2014that, like, you gravitated to\u2014so ELOQUII, you really liked the quality\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Mm-hmm.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> I think you tried on a pair of Meri Skye skinny jeans as well, or 1822 Denim. And another\u2014like, just understanding what works for you and what doesn’t work for you as you then move outside of the skinny silhouette, I would think that those are the brands that are gonna continue to work for you as you move forward. So, like, maybe, you know, if Slink doesn’t fit your body shape, that’s okay. And luckily, there’s lots of other denim brands out there.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah, yeah, exactly. I did not speak to the Meri Skye. Those were really comfortable, and I did like them. I\u2014I probably even should have put a maybe for keeping when I was filling this out because I did love the dark wash. They were super comfortable. They had just the right amount of stretch. I just, again, I was just checked out of the skinny-jean style. But they\u2014they were really nice. They felt\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> That’s great.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014good.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> And perhaps you\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Awesome.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014found another style you love.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> There we go. There we go. That was the goal.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Awesome. Awesome. Okay, so I’m gonna move\u2014let’s see\u2014to a\u2014let’s start, like, skinny and then\u2014and then sort of, like, work our way out. So let’s move to, like, the straight-leg jeans. We sent you two pairs of straight-leg jeans and then, like, maybe more of a relaxed pair. One was from 1822 Denim, one was from Avenue, and then a little bit of a wild card were the relaxed snake-print from ELOQUII that I sort of\u2014I, like, couldn’t necessarily see Carly wearing, but I was like, well, she’s already trying on nine pairs of jeans. It would be\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Ha ha ha ha.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Send her a tenth.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014and, like, you never know. I think sometimes, like\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> You never know.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014like, that’s kind of the beauty of\u2014of this, is, like, having somebody else pick something out. And when you’re already trying stuff on, like, trying something on that feels a little bit, like, wild and different. Like, you’re like, I may not want this in the jean, but maybe I want this in just, like, a solid denim. Or maybe I want to actually incorporate this sort of style and texture of the jean in something else in my wardrobe. And maybe I decide I don’t want it at all. You just send it on back and say, see you later. Like, it’s not that\u2014it’s not that serious. But I’m curious to hear sort of what your\u2014what your thoughts and feelings are about the straight, which is, like, a little bit wider. And, Liz, correct me if I’m wrong. You’re sort of the, like, denim expert, but straight-leg is where it’s really just, like, straight down from, like, hips to\u2014hips to leg.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yeah. I mean, I think that there’s\u2014it’s a\u2014what do you call it? It’s\u2014it’s a spectrum. There’s definitely a spectrum of straight-leg jeans. And the\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah, sure. Yeah.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u20141822 straight-leg that we sent you have more of a slim-straight silhouette. But yes, theoretically, it’s basically the same-size leg opening from hip to ankle. This is not quite that, but that is straight.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> I think\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> I really liked the straight cut. It look\u2014I felt good in it. I, again, my hips are sort of narrow. I felt like it\u2014I felt like it was, like, really complementary to my shape. So\u2014and\u2014and I tried the 1822 Better Butter. Oh my gosh, they are\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Mm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Ooh.\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> \u2014so soft and feel incredible. So, fell in love with those very quickly. And they were\u2014they were the right inseam for me too, which was great. So I’m\u2014I’m realizing inseam is a big part of my problem. I think I’m sort of, like, in between a tall girl and a short girl. So it’s a little\u2014it can get a little awkward. And then I tried the Avenue straight-leg. Go ahead.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> And I feel like inseam\u2014inseam doesn’t s\u2014doesn’t seem\u2014it\u2014it makes a huge difference, finding the right inseam. But I feel like it’s not something that is, like, very often easy to find when you’re shopping\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Mm-hmm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014for really\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Mm.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014any pair of pants. But it does make a huge difference. And, like, somebody’s high-rise or mid-rise or low-rise is very\u2014like, one brand’s 14 is different than another brand’s 14. The same goes with definitions for, like, high-rise, whereas inseam, when it’s actually, like, measured and\u2014and says what it is, is like, okay, I think these are gonna fit me. So that’s\u2014that’s\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> \u2014great.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> I\u2014I’m someone who\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Yeah, it\u2014\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014who keeps a sewing tape measure in their\u2014one of their pouches. We talked about pouches in another episode. And one of my pouches does have a small sewing measuring tape because, if I’m out shopping, I’m someone who likes to measure the rise. Because, to Marge’s point, mid-rise here is not the same as mid-rise there. And\u2014and as someone who is also a high-rise denim girl, I’m not a 13-inch high-rise denim girl because\u2014\u00a0
Carly<\/strong> Sure, right.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014I’m petite, and my\u2014my torso is not very\u2014not very long. So before I, like\u2014I\u2014trying on jeans is exhausting. I mean, Carly, the idea\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Yeah.\u00a0
Liz<\/strong> \u2014that you tried on 10 pairs of jeans in one sitting, like, I hope you had a cocktail afterwards. But\u2014\u00a0
Marge<\/strong> Wild.\u00a0
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