There’s a particular kind of déjà vu happening in Fall 2026 fashion.
Plaid is everywhere. Suede is having a moment. Bomber jackets are coming back out of closets. Polos look strangely familiar. Pants are getting more interesting. And somewhere, an anorak that survived a decade of closet clean-outs is preparing for its second act.
If some of this feels familiar, that’s because it is.
In Episode 10 of Styled, Off Script, Marge, Liz and Maloree are talking about the Fall 2026 trends they’re genuinely excited about, the ones they’re still deciding on and the styles that immediately transport them back 15 or 20 years.
But this isn’t really a conversation about what’s “in.”
It’s about what happens when an old trend meets a new version of you.
Fall Trends 2026—and a Little Fashion Déjà Vu
Fall has always been good at inspiring a very specific version of ourselves.
The first cool morning arrives and suddenly the sweaters come out. Boots feel necessary again. A jacket becomes the all-important third piece. We want texture, layers, loafers, plaid and something warm to hold while walking around pretending we have nowhere in particular to be.
For Marge, getting sweaters back after summer feels like “a hug from a great friend you haven’t seen in a long time.”
And this year, that reunion comes with another familiar feeling: Haven’t we worn some of this before?
Liz remembers her plaid-heavy era. Maloree will happily wear her riding boots every fall regardless of what anyone declares “in” or “out.” Marge is seeing polos and collared knits that immediately bring her back to the mid-2000s.
Then there’s Liz’s army-green anorak.
She wore it constantly around 2014, usually with the unofficial uniform of the era: black leggings, Uggs and, naturally, an infinity scarf.
The jacket stayed.
The outfit around it changed.
This fall, she’s imagining that same anorak with wide-leg or barrel pants instead.
That may be the simplest way to understand a returning trend: the piece can be the same without the outfit—or the person wearing it—being the same.
The Item Might Look Familiar. You’re Not.
There’s an easy tendency to see a trend from our past and immediately remember everything we associate with wearing it the first time.
Sometimes that memory is fun.
Sometimes it’s somewhere closer to: absolutely not.
But a trend coming back doesn’t actually send us back in time.
While talking about corduroy making its way into her shopping cart again, Marge points out that she now has another 15 or 20 years of confidence and life experience behind her. Something that once made her feel like a “poser” can land completely differently today.
Maloree had a similar experience with a baby-doll-style dress layered over a white tee. At first, the outfit transported her straight back to middle school. Then she realized she wasn’t recreating a middle-school outfit at all.
She was wearing the grown-up version.
And, importantly, she had the confidence to wear something now that she hadn’t felt confident enough to try then.
That’s what makes fashion nostalgia more interesting than simply repeating an old outfit.
The clothes may circle back.
We get to meet them as entirely different people.
The Fall Trends We’re Actually Talking About
So what’s catching everyone’s attention for Fall 2026?
Texture is a big one. Suede and suede-like finishes are showing up across jackets and other pieces, bringing a softer, richer feeling to fall dressing.
Pants are also getting more interesting. Alongside the wide-leg silhouettes that have been around for several seasons, Liz is especially excited about track-inspired pants that can move between casual and more polished styling, plus refreshed utility shapes.
Then there’s the evolution of the matching set.
Sets may have become synonymous with comfort dressing a few years ago, but newer versions feel much more considered: different fabrications, more shape and pieces that work just as well separately as they do together.
That last part matters.
A set doesn’t have to stay a set.
Wear both pieces together. Pair the top with your favorite jeans. Take the pant somewhere completely different. For travel in particular, two coordinating pieces that also play well with the rest of your closet can do a surprising amount of work.
Denim is another easy place to experiment.
Liz has been loyal to her barrel jeans, but this season she’s venturing into a flare with crochet detailing down the sides—very much outside her usual denim comfort zone.
Her verdict?
“This is me trying something different. And I’m very excited.”
You Don’t Have to Become a Trend Person
Trying something different does not mean rebuilding your wardrobe around it.
In fact, one of the easiest ways to experiment with Fall 2026 fashion is to change exactly one thing.
Interested in a top that feels different from your usual style? Wear it with the jeans you trust most.
Curious about another denim silhouette? Keep the shirt and shoes familiar.
Want to see whether a trend works for you? Try it before deciding what your opinion is.
While discussing a pair of jeans she’d normally pass over, Marge lands on one of the simplest ideas of the episode:
“That may not be me, but it could be.”
There’s a lot of room between “I would never wear that” and “this is my entire personality now.”
You can just be curious.
Try the “Wrong” Shoe
You may not even need something new.
Liz brings up the “wrong shoe theory”: instead of finishing an outfit with the shoe that seems most obvious, deliberately choose the unexpected one.
A sundress with a lug-sole loafer.
A party dress with a sneaker.
Something polished with something a little tougher.
Changing one element can make clothes you already own feel completely different—and let you experiment with a newer styling idea without buying an entirely new outfit.
It’s also a useful reminder that trends don’t only live in individual products.
Sometimes what feels current is simply the way familiar pieces are being put together.
Style Is an Opinion. Yours.
Underneath all of the talk about plaid, pants, suede, old jackets and questionable early-aughts choices is a much bigger idea.
Style should give us room to have an opinion.
There are enough areas of life with serious stakes, hard rules and things outside our control. Getting dressed can be one of the places where we get to play.
Try the trend.
Skip the trend.
Love how it looks on someone else and decide it isn’t coming home with you.
Wear a T-shirt and jeans because that’s exactly what feels like you today.
Pull something out of the back of your closet and discover you like it more now than you did ten years ago.
Personal style doesn’t need to be perfectly consistent, either.
As Marge puts it in the episode, it’s okay if your style is “a little bit of this and that and this and that.”
That’s how it should be.
SOS Style Emergency: What Do You Wear When the Uniform Is Gone?
This week’s SOS starts with an anniversary trip—but underneath it is a much bigger style transition.
An anonymous listener recently retired from a career in a hospital, where she spent years wearing a uniform. At home, she typically lives in pajamas, shorts and tanks.
Now she and her husband are celebrating their 28th anniversary with an Arizona staycation, including a farm-to-table lunch and an indoor music event.
She wants something fresh and fun. Casual, but put together. Comfortable, but still cool.
The bigger question may not be “What should I wear for my anniversary?”
It may be: Now that I get to choose, what do I actually want to wear?
After years of having work clothes decided for you, retirement can create an unexpected wardrobe reset.
Liz suggests starting with versatile separates: a pair of white or light pants, an elevated set that can be mixed and matched, or an updated wrap-style top.
Marge gravitates toward easy wide-leg linen-inspired pants with a relaxed top, an intentional sandal and accessories—or a breezy midi dress that keeps the ease of a sundress while offering a little more length.
Maloree takes the most experimental route: keep those shorter sundresses in rotation by layering one over wide-leg jeans, turning a familiar piece into something entirely new.
Different answers, same idea.
She doesn’t need to adopt a completely new fashion identity because she retired.
She gets to build a wardrobe around the life she actually gets to live now.
Bring a Little Fall Into Your Own Closet
The easiest way into a new season isn’t necessarily buying everything that’s trending.
Sometimes it’s seeing your own closet differently.
Maybe that means bringing back the jacket you almost donated.
Maybe it’s trying a pant shape you’ve never considered.
Maybe it’s finally giving suede a chance.
Maybe it’s wearing a favorite dress with the “wrong” shoe.
Or maybe you’d rather have someone else introduce a few possibilities you wouldn’t have picked for yourself.
The Fall Preview Box is one way to explore that idea with a stylist. You choose the occasion or style direction, and our stylists pull together a 5-piece wardrobe around it—taking your preferences, lifestyle and personal style into account.
The point isn’t to dress like “Fall 2026.”
Listen to Episode 10 of Styled, Off Script
In The Trends Are Back. Are We?, Marge, Liz and Maloree talk fashion nostalgia, Fall 2026 trends, pieces making a comeback, styling what you already own and why forming your own opinion may be the most useful trend advice of all.
Because fashion is supposed to be fun.
And your opinion is the part that makes it style.
It’s to figure out which parts of fall feel like you.
Got a style dilemma?
We’re taking real SOS submissions for future episodes.
Whether you’re:
- packing for a trip
- stuck in a style rut
- navigating a wardrobe change
- or just not sure what to wear
Submit your own SOS request and we may feature it on the show!
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Marge Okay, welcome back to episode ten of Styled, Off Script that has started very similarly to episode one, where we hit record and then just, like, technologically, things died. But we are all here. I’m Marge. I’m with Liz and Maloree.
Liz Hello.
Maloree Hello.
Liz It does seem to be—I will take the blame—it does seem to be my technology that—
Maloree Yeah.
Liz —fails us time and time again, but we’re here and we’re ready.
Marge We are ready, and we are going to be talking about some fun fall trends and fall style in particular. And I’m very excited about it because not only is it my favorite season of the year to dress—how about you folks?
Maloree A hundred percent.
Marge Yeah.
Maloree Fall is my time to shine.
Marge Yes, yes, yes.
Liz I’m just always so excited for that first time I can pull on a cozy sweatshirt. I mean, I don’t think there’s—
Maloree Uh-huh.
Marge Yes.
Liz —any better feeling in the world.
Marge I feel like reuniting with my sweaters after, like—
Liz Yes.
Marge —a—it feels like a family reunion or, like—
Liz I love it.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —a hug from a great friend you haven’t seen in a long time. And I’m like, my God, I’ve missed you so much. I can’t—
Liz Exactly.
Marge —wait to tell you about all the drama that’s happened.
Liz Hahaha.
Marge And yeah, so fall, and I am officially back in New York City, baby.
Liz Love to see it.
Marge Yes, yes. And I am glad to be back, especially because while I was there, I got invited to my 20th high school reunion. And I said, absolutely not. I have to get the F out of here. And I will, unfortunately, be out of town that weekend. So—
Liz Aw, too bad, so sad.
Maloree It’s—
Marge Boohoo. So I will not be there. But it made me think, especially spending so much time, like, in my childhood home and back sort of doing so many of the things that I haven’t done in 20 years. I was sort of thinking about fashion and style. And then, in addition, I was shopping a lot because when I left, I didn’t really bring much with me. And so I’ve had to do a lot of shopping and prepping and stuff just for regular fall life at Dia & Co., and I’m seeing some trends that feel awfully familiar to the early aughts and the millennium. And I’m a little scared, but also kind of excited.
Liz It’s a balance, I think, for sure. I will say it makes me feel old. So—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —let’s start with that grounding. But—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —at the same time, it’s amazing how quickly I’m seeing styles that I feel like I’ve seen in the past and being like, there’s a little bit of comfort there and recognition. And I know how to wear that and how to make it feel like me. I definitely, I would say, in the early aughts, went through a heavy plaid phase.
Marge Wow.
Liz Maybe not so much in the preppy way, more in the grungy way, or in the sort of, I don’t know, more tomboy way, I guess I would describe it. And I will just say, I feel like for a solid 18 months, I always had plaid tied around my waist or my neck, depending on the season. And so to see—
Marge I love that.
Liz —some of those plaid patterns come back, again, not so much in the preppy Ralph Lauren way, which I also appreciate, but different, but in maybe, like, accessories and pieces that have some texture. I don’t know, I’m excited to—I saw a plaid baby-doll dress the other day that I was like, hmm, I could wear that with some combat boots and—and sort of—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —live out my grungy fantasies again. That’s cute. So I’m excited for that.
Marge I’m never mad at a—never mad at a plaid. Never. I’ve always—
Liz Yeah. Yeah.
Marge —been in my plaid era, and I’m—I’m always here for it. And I do like the, like, modern, like, beyond just a plaid button-up shirt, like the traditional kind of L.L.Bean, like, dad shirt or boyfriend shirt.
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge It is really, really fun to see it in, like, ultra-feminine ways. I have a really—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —fun plaid, like, red plaid blouse that I bought last year, which is kind of out of the silhouettes that I normally wear. But—
Liz Hmm.
Marge —I’m—I’m really excited to try it because I didn’t get a chance to wear it last year. So I’m excited to—to break it out and—and wear it this year. But—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —I’m loving this time of year for textures. It’s, like, the feel-good season, where you have the knits, the waffles, the just really, like, cozy comfort pieces.
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge And I’m—I’m thrilled to sort of touch and feel all the clothes. I very much enjoy sort of, like, things that don’t feel scratchy and things that just feel really co—like, cozy. And—
Liz You—
Marge —I’m seeing a lot of that. I think the, like, cable-knit—what is it? The When Harry Met Sally, like, Harry cable-knit sweater will always be a trend. Yeah, yeah.
Liz The fisherman sweaters. Oh my goodness, yes.
Marge And basically, like, all of those movies too, I think, inspired so much of fashion that era then, and so much of that is coming back as well. It’s like a nostalgia nod.
Liz It’s funny that you say that. We watched Practical Magic last weekend—
Marge Ooh.
Liz —sort of in preparation for the release of Practical Magic 2. And while I believe it was made in ’98, so long time ago, very different period of time, but I swear, whether it was the fashion or the interior design, it was something that felt so real for right now.
Marge Yeah.
Liz I mean, obviously, they were talking on, like, weird cell phones. We’re like—
Maloree Ha ha ha.
Liz —the technology, maybe not so much. But, like, I mean, slip dresses and—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —talk about texture and the lace and the boots and the play of hard and soft. And then this kitchen that they’re in, I just was like, bring it. This could be happening right now, and I would be all here.
Marge I want that house.
Liz I know, I know, I know.
Marge Yeah, absolutely. I l—I like that, that, like, grungy kind of mix—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —of, of the, like, feminine and masculine. And I, I, I think that that’s also something that we’re seeing a lot in the recent years and—and sort of even, even more, like, men wearing kilts and—and layering longer dresses and—and things into style, but also women—
Liz Let’s move.
Marge —really crushing the workwear and menswear is just really, really fun. I, I always—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —sort of go that route too. And it’s—I have quite a few blazers that I love to bring out every fall and, before it gets too cold, make sure that they get plenty of airtime and—and have fun playing with.
Liz Yeah.
Marge Maloree, in Texas, how d—what does fall look like in terms of style? It doesn’t get much cooler.
Maloree No. It—I mean, we get—I—it just takes us a lot longer to get there. Like, you were—
Liz And—
Maloree —wearing a sweatshirt this morning. It’s still, like, 102 degrees right now. So, like—
Marge Yikes.
Maloree —even the thought of a sweatshirt makes me sweat. But I definitely—we—I personally, and I think a lot of people down here, do a lot of layering because it’s definitely one of those, like, it’s really cold in the morning and in the evenings, but during the day, it’s nice outside. Like, you don’t want to be in super heavy. So I always reach for a lot of, like, light jackets over a sweater or even just, like, a button-up shirt over something a little—
Marge Yeah.
Maloree —bit thicker is, like, my go-tos every fall.
Marge I love that. I love that. Do you—do either of you have, like, a go-to fall uniform or maybe a piece that—or an outfit that you bring back every year, or pieces that are your, like, go-tos every fall? Sort of trendless or always on trend?
Maloree I—mine are—yeah, mine are definitely my boots. I have a pair of riding—
Marge Yeah.
Liz Hmm.
Maloree —boots that, literally, I don’t care if somebody says they’re out of style, I will wear them every single fall because they are just fall to me. And sweaters, like, I have—
Marge Mm.
Maloree —a few sweaters that I’ve had for literally probably five or six years now that I still wear because they’re so soft. Probably need to retire a couple of them because they’ve got holes and stuff, but I also can’t let go of them. So we’ll see. Yeah.
Marge You also probably know how to patch them pretty nicely, so—
Liz Maloree, jack of all trades.
Marge Yeah, yeah. They last forever. Yeah.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Liz I am a pretty big fan, like, in my life in general, of a third piece. And I really struggle with a third piece during the summer because it’s just so hot, and I tend to be in as few clothes and accessories as possible. And so, for fall, it really does, for me, like, mark the return of the third piece. So whether it’s, like Maloree was saying, like, a heavier button-up, like—I love a real chambray, but, like, leaning towards denim top, or, like, sort of more of, like, a—something between, like, a jacket, like a shacket, I guess, a lightweight jacket, or, like, a handkerchief tied around my neck, or a vest, or a cardigan, like, whatever it is. I love that third piece. And so being able to bring that back in fall is always something that I look forward to. Also, I love bringing back non-sandal shoes.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Liz So I’m still trying to figure out what my shoe this fall is going to be, but I recently started wearing, like, my clogs again because it’s just been too hot to wear anything other than, like, true Birkenstocks or flip-flops or whatever. So… going through my sneaker collection, going through sort of some of my favorites and my clogs, and eventually loafers. Really, I need a new pair of loafers this year, I think. I want, like, a broken-in pair of loafers very badly. But yeah, those are some of the things.
Marge Ooh. That should be—that should be an added service. Like, you can have someone break—
Liz Yeah, can you break in my loafers?
Marge —yeah. Yeah.
Liz Seriously, I think they’re gonna have to be, like, you know, resale. I think I’m gonna have to do it and find a great pair of resale loafers. So I’ll keep you posted on that search.
Marge Great idea. That’s a great idea. I know, I live—I live in loafers. It’s—it’s funny. I—it’s not that I struggle with shoes in fall. I think there’s a lot of options, but the, like, transition of in-between, like, how soon can I put on my boots? Because—
Liz Exactly.
Marge —I, I invested in a really good pair of Chelsea boots, like lug-sole, chunky Chelsea boots, a couple years ago that are very well made and super comfortable, that I could wear every day of the week and could dress it up—like, dress them up, dress them down, like, wear them with almost every outfit. And so I rotate between those, a pair of loafers, and, like, a pair of sneakers. And then I’m done. And—
Liz Nice.
Marge —that feels so different for me because I love shoes and I have a lot of shoes, but yet, like, I feel like I have so many that I don’t actually wear as often as I probably should. But I—
Liz Same.
Marge —I do love—I do love a good—a good loafer. I think, for fall, the third piece, absolutely. I think that’s one of my weaknesses. I have far too many jackets, and you typically can only—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —wear one jacket at a time. But I do love a layer and that, like, third-piece layer. And there’s so many ways to play with that. And I, I think that really, like, can take an outfit in so many different directions. So I—I’m right there with you. I’m trying to limit myself to, like, one jacket purchase for the year. Like, I’m allowed one, and so I have to make the decision. I don’t need one, but, like—
Liz Right.
Marge —I know it can get out of hand very quickly. And so, last year and the year before, I tried to say, okay, I’m not buying a jacket until, like, later on in the winter or the season, where I know for sure I’ve seen all of the options out there and I can make my decision. Because typically, I buy one around this time of year, and then new styles come out. And then, like, mid-October, I’m like, God, I love this one. I have to find this one.
Liz Yeah.
Marge And then I end up with, like, three wool coats and many lightweight jackets that I don’t—don’t wear. So I’ve—I’ve done a good job of—of holding the line there and—and not going crazy. My other weakness is sweaters. I could wear sweaters all day, every day.
Liz Speaking about jackets, though, in particular—and I guess this applies to sweaters too—I just think of a jacket, at least for me—well, I don’t know. Sometimes I feel like they’re more investment pieces. But, like, if you’re hanging on to them, which I have a very—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —hard time getting rid of things. So if you’re hanging on to them, I think jackets are a really good example of, like, what is old is new again. And, like—
Marge Sure.
Liz —especially this year, whether it’s bomber jackets or, like, Maloree, we were talking offline before, like, our army-green anorak jacket. I—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Liz —do not know why I held onto my anorak, except that, like, I probably wore it every day in 2014. But, like, I’m so glad I held onto it because I will definitely be wearing it this fall. I might add some patches, or I might—I don’t know. I’m gonna wear it with different—I’m not gonna be wearing it with black leggings anymore, which is what I used to do. I’ll be wearing it with my black—
Maloree Ha ha ha.
Liz —wide-leg pants instead, or my barrel pants.
Marge Leggings and your Uggs and a chunky scarf and your anorak jacket—
Liz Exactly.
Marge —and a topknot bun.
Maloree I was about to say—
Liz Exactly.
Maloree —the infinity scarf’s—
Marge Yep.
Maloree —not doing it for you anymore.
Liz And don’t forget my pumpkin spice latte, but I—
Marge Ooh, baby.
Liz —will definitely be wearing that jacket, just styled in a very different way. And so I’m glad it’s still in my closet. And it’s not just that jacket. Like, I have a bomber jacket that I haven’t worn in years that I am counting down the days so I can wear again. And some blazers that I think, you know, Marge, to what you were saying about menswear, like, for a while there, I was, like, not wearing my more structured blazers. I was, like, leaning towards a more feminine, relaxed blazer. And now I’m like, no, I want, like, the true menswear blazers I was wearing sort of ironically before. Now I feel like it’s, like, right on trend.
Marge Yeah, it’s—I think there are some pieces that, for whatever cosmic reason—and this could be a little too, like, woo-woo—but, like, that we hold on to, that, like, whether they were worth a lot or, like, we paid a lot for them, or they have that, like, sentimental value, or that, like, potential, or just, like, classic pieces that you could do so much with, that, like, wardrobe warrior that can do so many different things with it, that we hold on to. That—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —like, I, I was joking with—with my dad a couple months ago because in his closet are these suits that he had made for him back in the ’70s, when suits were made specifically for people. And he has a full, like, madras suit. He has a, like—
Liz Oh my God.
Marge —full linen suit, and they’re beautifully made, and they fit him for the first time in 50 years. And he did this little, like, try-on moment that was, like, just so funny. But there are styles that I could totally see someone wearing now. And—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —like, the—the trends and—and things that, like, I’m—I’m seeing a lot of, like, the big wide-leg pants and—and, like, the ribbed henleys and things with, like, detailed collars and cuffs. Like, that totally screams stuff that, like, my mom and dad would wear back in the ’70s that we have photos of, that, like—but with, like, a cool, modern twist, you know, now—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —or—or slightly different fabrication, that it is kind of cool that it’s, like, a through line of—of expression and—and history throughout it, that, like, it’s just fun inspiration all around, that it is sort of cyclical and—and comes back around. So some things are meant—
Liz Right.
Marge —to stay in our closets for—for years. And then there are others—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —that are like, please, please, let me go.
Liz Yeah.
Marge So I wanted to sh—I wanted to sort of talk through, is there anything from the, like—I don’t know—of the, like, 15, 20 years ago, before we sort of, like, move on to current trends that we’re seeing now? Like, or is there anything in your wardrobe from 15, 20 years ago that you, like, either still have around or that you would bring back specifically? I know we talked about, like, plaid. Any—I don’t know, like, any trend? Like, I, I had joked with Maloree about, like, corduroy pants. I don’t think I would wear corduroy pants again. But, like, I did just—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —add this, like, gorgeous burgundy corduroy button-up shirt to my, like, cart the other day.
Liz Hello?
Marge And so some of the, like, textures and fabrications that I vividly remember from that, like, high school-college era are back again. But I think I can do it differently. And also, you have, like, 15, 20 years of confidence, of life experience, that, like, I’m so not in my head the same way as I was then, that I kind of want to do it justice, you know, and be like, I’m gonna wear that outfit, and I know I’m gonna look cute, and, like, I’m gonna like how I feel in it and how I look in it. Where back then it was just like, my God, I feel like—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Liz You’re it.
Marge —a total poser.
Liz I think one thing I’m sort of—definitely thinking a lot about footwear right now, and I don’t know why, but I am. And I think one trend, or one thing from sort of before, that I’m interested in trying is a moccasin. So maybe it’s because I went hard into a boat shoe in the summer, and I feel like—
Marge Yeah. Yeah.
Liz —a moccasin is maybe the fall version of the boat shoe.
Marge Yeah.
Liz I also am really loving suede right now, and so that’s—
Marge Ooh.
Liz —something. But, like, my earlier version of the moccasin was like—this is so embarrassing, but you got to own it—it was like the knee-high, or like right below my knee, Minnetonka with all the fringe. Three—
Marge Oh my God.
Liz —layers of fringe. I—
Marge Wait.
Liz —still cannot believe I owned those shoes. And I am also—I don’t own them anymore, just for nostalgia. I would not wear them out. But I do wonder, like, what the slip-on sort of—I don’t know, is there a moc—is there a moccasin in my future? Potentially, potentially.
Marge I have—I have seen them.
Liz Okay.
Marge They have hit Connecticut. I don’t think they ever left.
Liz Okay, okay. That’s—I guess that’s not surprising. Yeah.
Maloree Ha ha ha.
Marge Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, it—it’s the—I’ve seen a lot of polo shirts, like collar—like short-sleeve collared shirts.
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge And I was of the era that layered multiple with a denim skirt. And—
Liz Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Marge —I did also just order myself a collared, like, sweater this morning—
Liz Hmm.
Marge —that I thought was kind of funky and different, but, like, had that kind of, like, polo collar to it that, like, I don’t know if I’m gonna like it. I ordered it, like, very oversized, and for what it’s worth, it has, like, the Green Bay Packers on it. And so I ordered it to, like, bridge out my—my fashion for watching football this season. But I don’t—I would, like, wear, like, a button-up car—like, collared shirt, no problem. But something about, like, a pullover with a collar feels, like, very 2005.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge That—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —I don’t—I don’t know. I—we’ll see. I think with, like, a cute pair of, like, wide-leg jeans and some funky boots or sneakers, like, I’ll feel fine. But—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —something about the, like, short-sleeve—even, like, the short-sleeve, like, mock-neck sweaters that I’ve been seeing—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —feel a little, I don’t know, maybe they’re, like, too trendy or, like, too of a certain era for me that I can’t—can’t get around to. The layered tank over a T-shirt. Maloree, you actually wore an outfit, like, the cute little, like—
Maloree Hmm.
Marge —babydoll dress over a T-shirt recently, and it looked so good.
Maloree Yeah, and that took me, like, a really—it took me convincing because I put it on at first, and I was like, okay, I kind of like this. But then I also—it, like, instantly took me back to middle school, and I was like, do I look like a child in this?
Marge It was so cute.
Maloree And my mom was like—
Maloree No, it’s so cute.
Liz It was so cute.
Maloree And I was like, okay, okay, I’ll wear it. But I did—I—it took, like, a lot of mental gymnastics to be like, okay, this is not a middle-school outfit. This is, like, a grown-up version of it. And I was—I definitely am gonna wear it again, but it—it was definitely a throwback for me, for sure.
Marge Yeah. It feels like some—some of this is—I think I said this to both of you at some point this week—like, being back—being back home and—and fashion and getting ready and whatever felt very different than my life here in New York. And it felt like I was, like, cosplaying a different era of my life, or, like, I was in, like, soft shorts and a T-shirt and, like, it was summertime. So it kind of felt like I—like, out of col—like, like out of college or out of high school, like, having the summer to whatever. But I’m also, like, almost 38—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —working full-time and doing, like, adult healthcare things. And I’m like, wait a minute, like, how old am I? I—I, like, started to have an existential crisis. But finding, like—I then got a Dia & Co. box, and I tried on stuff that I, like, can’t wait to wear if I decide to go into the office or, like, if I’m gonna meet up with friends, and just things that, like, I can easily see wearing now in—in my, like, normal life here, that I’m like, okay, okay, yep, that’s who I am. That’s my identity. I feel—I feel fine playing with it. And that babydoll dress over the white T-shirt, Mal, looked so cute that I was like, that’s a trend. Like, that is totally present now, but also, I very much remember it—
Maloree Yeah.
Marge —and—and thinking, like, I could never wear this then, but, like, tried to and hated it then, but, like, always loved seeing it on other people.
Maloree Mm-hmm. Same. That was—
Marge I love that.
Maloree —that was, like, how I felt when I put it on. I was like, this looks like something people wore when I was in, like, middle school, and—but I never did because it just—I don’t know, I didn’t have the confidence to do it. And so it—it was definitely, like, a throwback, for sure.
Marge I love it. I love it. Are there any other—speaking as, you know, we’re—we’re headed into fall. We have sort of the frontline view of fall trends. Are there any trends—this is maybe, like, a Liz-Maloree question, as you both sort of sit very closely on—on the merch side of things—any trends or silhouettes, colors, textures, things showing up more frequently than you’ve seen in other years, or other y—other trends you think that we should pay attention to?
Liz There’s so much great stuff right now. I am excited to see, like—this is going to sound very silly—but some innovation in pants, in pant style. So, like, I feel—
Marge Ooh, yeah.
Liz —like we’ve been seeing the wider-leg pant for a few seasons now, or for a while now. But to see, like, not just a wide-leg pant—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —I’m loving the track-style pants—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Liz —both in, like, a casual sort of throwback way, but also in a more elevated style too. Exactly, exactly.
Marge It’s like a fresh tuxedo pant for work. Like, that’s at least what it reminds me of, but in, like, a really fun, trendy way that also feels casual. Yeah, yeah.
Liz And in a comfortable, accessible way. And everybody is doing them. Like, whether it’s us or Old Navy or Target or higher-end brands, like, everyone is doing them. And I think you can get—there’s so many different fabrications. And like I said, casual to dressy, and depending on how you style it, I think there’s a big difference. I’m loving seeing some more, like, utility-style pants also, whether they’re wide-leg or joggers, just with pockets in interesting places. Like, I don’t know, I feel like for so long I heard cargo pants and I, like, shuddered and, like—
Marge Yeah, yeah.
Liz —only thought of, like, my father-in-law. And now we’ve just gotten so much better on pocket placement and thinking about what kind of fabric we’re using with those. Like, I have an old pair—I mean, they’re not old-old, a few years old—of, like, linen cargo pants that I always—they’re army green, and so I always sort of pull them back out as we transition into fall. And it’s just fun to see that style be updated for this year. So I’m really excited about bottoms. And then another thing that I’m really excited about, and I think this has been, like, a long time coming, but it’s, like, sort of the evolution of the set. I feel like sets really had their moment, you know, around COVID, and it was more of, like, a comfort and just ease thing. And now it’s been fun to see sets in more, again, elevated fabrications and styles that, like, you can truly wear out and about and to that dinner date or—or whatever it is. But there’s, like, such an ease to them still too. And it takes all of the guesswork out, whether they’re, like, elevated knit sets or silky sets or—with, like—they’re not just hanging off your body anymore. It’s not just, like, a sweatshirt, you know? They have interesting cuts and patterns and some of that mock-neck detail, Marge, that you were talking about before. I’m really excited about those as well.
Marge And I—I’m sort of slow to accept the set because I feel like—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —I had a lot of that growing up. But seeing how—I literally watched, like, your merch video earlier today, and seeing—
Liz Aw.
Marge —seeing the—the sets that we have, but also realizing that just because it’s sold as a set doesn’t mean that you have to wear it together. That, like, once—
Liz Totally, totally.
Marge —you have both pieces, you can do with them as you please, and they play well with others. And—
Liz Exactly.
Marge —I think that that’s—that’s just practical and really easy—easy to use. A great travel, like—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —tip is to have a set that you can wear together and then mix and match, and nobody will know that it’s all the same outfit.
Liz Absolutely.
Marge But that’s great. Maloree, any trends that you’re seeing on your end that are sort of grabbing at you?
Maloree I’ve, like you said earlier, noticed a lot of textures. And like Liz said too, I am loving all of the suede and, like—
Liz Mmm.
Maloree —the softer—
Marge Ooh, yeah.
Maloree —textures. I’ve noticed a lot of, like, suede jackets, but not—I feel like they’re in some different silhouettes than I’ve seen, like, in recent years, which I really love. And I love that now I have adult money and can buy a suede jacket because—
Marge Yeah. I—suede always scared me from, like, a how-to-care-for-it way.
Maloree Yeah.
Marge But I think it looks so chic.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Liz And I would say, like, also, you know, don’t be scared of vegan suede or vegan leather. Like, that’s actually something that has changed so much since the early aughts, the quality—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —of, you know, the synthetic materials. I just think there’s a lot of, like, really interesting alternatives out there for, like, a more affordable price point. And some of it is—it’s not even supposed to be, like, fake suede, right? It just gives the appearance of suede, but it’s more of a knit, and—and the texture is so lovely. And I just think that there’s a—like, I don’t know, people hear polyester or synthetic and they freak out. And I just think that polyester of today is not the polyester of the ’70s. And so—
Marge Totally.
Liz —people shouldn’t be so scared.
Marge And I think there is a lot of synthetic fabrics that breathe beyond what the—
Liz Mm-hmm. Totally.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —like, impression was of what polyester was or, like, what—
Liz Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Marge —some of these fabrics—I think there was a time in which, like, synthetic fabrics didn’t breathe, they didn’t move, they—
Liz Totally.
Marge —were sort of very difficult to care for, they wrinkled. It was like—I totally—that experience is valid, and I hear you. There is also so much that’s been done in fabrications across the board in the last 10, 15 years that I’m often very, very surprised when I—I’m the type of person that looks at the fabric content, and I—
Liz You—
Marge —it’s usually after I’ve tried something on, and I’m like, my God, this is it? Like, fantastic. So I think—
Liz Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Marge —similar to, like, what I try when I’m working with a client or, like, trying to—like, a friend, just encouraging them to try something on. Like, just try it on. Like—
Liz Hmm.
Marge —you can always—you can—I want you to form an opinion. I want you to decide whether or not you like it. But, like, you owe it to yourself to try something new and different. And fashion is a great way to do that without it feeling so, like, heavy or—or—
Liz You—
Marge —so different. But it is really amazing to see the fabrication and the changes in that over especially, like, the last 10 years. Feels leaps—
Liz Uh-huh.
Marge —and bounds. I used to actually, like, really not like sweaters because they were always itchy to me, and I always just assumed that they were super, super itchy.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge And I hated them around my neck and hated how they felt. And now I could live in Dia & Co. sweaters.
Liz Mm-hmm. Uh-huh.
Marge I’m wondering if there is any—this is a good question. Like, are there any trends currently that you feel are easier to incorporate through, like, one piece instead of an entire outfit? Like, if you were to give advice to somebody who is looking to add a new trend or a new style, but, like, not looking to change the whole—their whole wardrobe, any suggestions?
Liz I mean, I’m gonna go back to what I always go back to, and I swear, Carly, I’m not calling you out specifically. But maybe, Carly, I’m calling you out specifically. Carly is one of our coworkers. I really think—
Marge Get Carly on the pod.
Liz Yes, next guest, for sure. I really think, like, just dipping your toe in a different silhouette for jeans is a great way to… try out a new trend. And I don’t even have a specific silhouette in mind, but I think so often—and I can call myself out here—we find something that works, and then we stick with it. Like, a few years ago, I discovered the barrel jean. As someone who is petite, a barrel jean is a huge win just because it’s, like, inherently a shorter inseam and sort of—I know it doesn’t work necessarily for the tall ladies, but for me, it has been a huge win. And then I just, like, immediately went full barrel and, like, forgot about every other silhouette of denim.
Marge I’ve actually never tried barrel-leg. I’ve seen them everywhere, and I’ve yet to try it.
Liz I’m obsessed. I mean, especially the ones that are out there this year versus last year because they’re just not as extreme. It’s, like, a much slimmer barrel.
Marge Yeah.
Liz And they just work really, really well for me. It’s like, that means I’m not trying out—that means I’m not trying out anything else because I’m just stuck in a rut now, and I have been for the last several years. And I think it’s… because jeans are made of the same basic material, it’s a very easy way to try out something new. Like, basically, the only thing that’s changing is the silhouette. You’re going to still pair it with the same top. You can still wear it with the same shoes. It still feels the same way against your body. And so if you can just try a different silhouette, I think that that is a great way to rock a new trend or style. I did recently buy a pair of jeans that, again, it has been too hot to wear, but I cannot wait, that are—they’re sort of a flare bootcut, but again, harken back—this is, like, a much longer time—to, like, an inset on the side that flares out. So, like, you know how people used to sew material, like, between the leg of—on the—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —outside leg of their jeans? These have, like, a crochet detail down the side. And I’m—
Marge Ooh.
Liz —dying to wear—
Maloree Yeah.
Liz —them. They’re very much outside of my typical denim silhouette. Outside—I don’t do, you know, I don’t do embroidery on my jeans. I don’t do anything like that. And I’m just like—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —this is me trying something different, and I’m very excited.
Marge I love that. I recently saw a pair of jeans that had, like, a scalloped, like, cuff, and—
Liz Yeah. Yeah.
Marge —it—it, I don’t—it had, like, kind of like the little, like, French-dot-like crochet detail, and—
Liz Yeah.
Marge —again, not something I would have ever gravitated to, but the person that was wearing it had it, like, styled really coolly. And I was like, those are fun.
Liz Yeah.
Marge And then I just haven’t had—I haven’t purchased them because I’m like, I don’t know. That—that may not be me, but—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —it could be.
Liz It could be.
Marge I think the opposite—my advice would be, like, the opposite of that. In it—like, in—I think absolutely finding jeans and playing with jeans and silhouettes of jeans are amazing. I think if you’re looking to explore more on the top, pair it with your go-to favorite jeans. Like, the jeans—
Liz Absolutely.
Marge —that you would wear every day, try that with a new top. Like, then at least—or a new fa—like, maybe it’s a new jacket or a new sweater, like, something. Like, if you’re trying something new for the first time, you don’t have to go, like—you don’t have to, like, jump in full skinny-dipping into the deep end. You can—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —just, like, touch a toe and, like, just sort of, like, try, like, one part of your outfit and then see how you feel. And then maybe the next time you try it a little bit differently and a little bit differently. And pairing it, at least, with, like, something that you really love helps kind of keep that balance. But I do—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —think it’s fun now that there are so many jean brands out there, especially in plus, but, like, that fit well, which was—
Liz Hmm.
Marge —the hardest problem for, I don’t know, the last 50-something years. That, like, you can find silhouettes in denim that are different and are fun and have a lot of personality to them, that you don’t have to wear your, like, same—same wash, same color every day.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Liz Do you guys remember the wrong-shoe theory from a few years ago, where it was like, you wear the dress that you’ve always—whatever dress you’re grabbing from your closet, and then you purposely pick the wrong shoe to wear with it? So maybe it’s a sundress, and you would typically wear some sort of sandal with it, and instead you’re gonna wear your lug-sole loafer with it. And I think that that—one of the reasons I really loved that, and, like, I still very much subscribe to the wrong-shoe theory, is because it’s a great way to take the clothes that you have right now and, like, give them new life and try out new trends and sort of take that quote-unquote risk without having to invest in anything new. Like, wearing the—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —sneaker with the fancier party dress, or, like, whatever it is. I just think that that is a very safe way to sort of take some risks in your—your wardrobe and test out new things.
Marge I don’t remember that at all, but I love that.
Maloree Yeah.
Liz Well, I can tell you, I can write a whole diatribe about it if anyone wants to go deep on the wrong—
Marge Mm-hmm.
Liz —shoe theory. It’s basically how I live my life these days.
Marge That’s fantastic. Fantastic. I actually watched last night the new episode of Ted Lasso, and—
Liz Ugh.
Maloree I watched it this morning.
Marge Ugh, I just—
Liz Oh my God, stop.
Marge —I just love—but, like, h—
Liz Love.
Marge —them asking him about, like, the—the—and all the girls buying him a pair of jeans—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —for the first time was, like, just so sweet and funny. And—and just, like, sometimes it takes somebody—like, I don’t think Ted thinks of himself as, like, one of the girls on the team, but, like, to have—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Marge —sometimes getting an opinion from someone who’s so different from you can actually be really helpful, can, like, take you completely out of your comfort zone to try something. Like, when he wore it, he wore it with his, like, classic, like, sweater and—and, like, he wore it as he would wear his other pants. But, like, just having it be sent from someone else or, like, have somebody else make the suggestion sort of got him to think about something that, like, he hadn’t worn in years. And I was like, wow, that’s kind of like a metaphor for, like, what we’re doing. Crazy. Crazy.
Maloree Yeah.
Liz It’s kind of like fashion.
Marge I know. I know. Okay, so speaking of all of that, I know we’re sort of running up on—on time and things. I wanted to sort of just preview, as folks will start to see on social and, you know, we’ve launched sort of this, like, fall campaign inspired by a lot of what we’ve been talking about on this podcast, is, like, having an opinion on your own style. The tagline for this is, “Style is an opinion. Yours.” And it’s something that I sort of thought of a couple months ago and—and really have found, like, anchoring for myself and anchoring to our, like, customer experience, is, like, we want folks to form an opinion on style. We want folks to play with style, try new things, try trends, try it out, and have an opinion. Even if, like, grabbing a T-shirt and jeans and running out the door is, like, what you’re doing today, like, that’s still your style, and that’s yours. That’s, like, something that, like, you have. And there’s so many things in life that, like, you don’t have control over, that you can’t play with, that are, like, you know, serious and have so many rules around them. I have found it very comforting and anchoring to have style be the—the, like, freedom of expression when a lot of other things don’t feel that way. And so I’m excited to sort of share more of—of this campaign throughout, you know, as—as we look at what the iterations look like, but mostly just, like, challenge folks to have an opinion, to, like, be inspired by trends, but maybe make your own trends and play with them and make them feel you versus trying to be exactly like someone else. And also here to shatter that anything you see on social media or marketing is, like, a fabricated—what a brand wants you to see. And so, like—
Liz You—
Marge —styles and trends and outfits that, like, are inspiring are, like, heavily talked about and, like, organized and chosen specifically. That that’s not necessarily a reflection of the person wearing it. They have their own—
Liz For it.
Marge —unique style too. So, like, it’s okay if your style is a little bit of this and that and this and that. That’s how it should be. Does that make sense?
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Liz Yes. Preach.
Marge Have fun.
Liz Have fun. Fashion’s supposed to be fun.
Marge Amen. Okay, so with that, I want to get us into our SOS, and then we’ll take it on home. But the SOS comes—SOS. I sounded, I don’t know, maybe—
Liz You—
Marge —a little, like, country-twangy a little bit there. Our SOS comes in from an anonymous listener, and they say, “I just retired from the hospital, and my husband and I are celebrating our 28th wedding anniversary.” My goodness.
Maloree Amazing.
Liz Is in.
Marge They say, “I always wore a uniform, and my home clothes are PJs, shorts, and tank tops. We live in Arizona. We’re doing a staycation here and attending an indoor music event. I want to feel cool but put together, but in a casual way. If clothes make me feel good, then it doesn’t matter the budget per each. I have some sundresses, but I feel like they’re too short. I’m very young at heart, and I like to be active. We’re also having lunch at a farm-to-table place in the park. My clothes are old, so I need something fresh and fun.” Ooh, I love this. Also, congratulations on retiring.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge And from working in a hospital and uniforms in life, I can only imagine. Congratulations, and 28 years. Holy moly. That’s incredible. So big ups to you. And I think fresh and fun is right up our alley.
Liz Right up our alley.
Marge I’m assuming it’s warm because we’re in Arizona.
Liz So I think one thing that’s interesting that stands out to me about this SOS—and this is true of so many of our customers and just people out in the world too—is this idea of, like, what do you do if you wear a uniform every day?
Marge Right.
Liz Or something that’s, like, you know, sort of special to work. What does your outside-of-work life look like? And how can you—I think that’s just an added challenge, like, to try to create a wardrobe. Like, you basically have two identities, it feels like to me, and especially to be sort of leaving what I assume is the comfort of the uniform in your day-to-day life and sort of, in some ways, starting from scratch and building a wardrobe for yourself. And so I just think that that’s a predicament that many people find themselves in. So I—I want to make sure that we, like, talk about just that before we even jump into something for a special occasion. I do think sort of thinking about pieces that are very versatile would be something that would come to mind for me right away. So what are things that you might not have, that this person in particular might not have in her closet, that people who do have to put together an outfit every day for the work world might have? So the first thing that I immediately thought of was white denim or white pants of some kind that she—
Marge Which you can wear after Labor Day, thank you very much.
Maloree Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
Liz A hundred percent. Winter white. We should have a whole episode on winter white and how much we adore winter white. But I think, is there anything more chic? But I think while a lot of people might have that, that might not be something, given this customer’s—or this person’s—former lifestyle, that she might not have in her wardrobe. So I would definitely start with a pair of white bottoms in her SOS. And it’s so easy, depending on the top that you wear, to dress up, dress down, wear while it’s still hot outside with, like, a gorgeous camisole and, of course, a jacket, and then transition to a different season with a chunky sweater and make it appropriate for that. So I think that would be my starting point. And then I’m going to mention something that I mentioned earlier in this episode, which would be an elevated set because, again, I’m trying to help her, like, build out a wardrobe that she might not already have. And, Marge, to your point that you mentioned earlier, yes, a set can be worn matching, but it can also be separated. And so that’s just going to give her so many more options as she thinks about not just living in pajamas and shorts and tank tops and, I guess, a few sundresses. And I just think whether it’s, you know—because this is a special event—maybe it’s a silk matching set with, you know, top and bottom, or maybe it’s something more basic that she can, you know, incorporate into a more daily or more regular—incorporate into more regular wear that’s gonna give her a lot of choice. The other thing that I’m seeing this season that we haven’t talked about very much is the return of the wrap top or the faux-wrap top—
Marge Yeah.
Liz —which obviously can be worn a bazillion different ways. Wear it with white denim. Wear it with something else. But I think for, like, the type of event that she is describing, I like the idea of her wearing separates and not a dress. And we are seeing the faux-wrap top everywhere in all different fabrications and cuts, everything from, like, a more flowy and feminine rayon or chiffon fabrication with, like, you know, more of, like, a peplum bottom and a true tie at the natural or even a little bit higher than natural waist, to knit tops that have, you know, like, a metallic—that have hardware on them at the sort of connection point. And I just think the easiest way ever to dress up a very basic look. You don’t even have to add jewelry. We’re doing nothing.
Marge Yeah, it feels elevated. It feels elevated.
Liz All you have to do is get dressed.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge I—I love the idea of the white, like, wide-leg linen pants, or just, like, any wide-leg, lightweight linen pant is, like, my go-to lately. I think that plus, like, a casual tee and a denim jacket, or, like, even just—I’ve been doing—I said the other day, it’s, like, inspired by Ina Garten, but, like, the wide-leg pant, the—
Liz Can’t go wrong.
Marge —the big, flowy, like, linen top. I’m all about it. And so something that’s, like, really breezy but also feels elevated, with, like, a nicer sandal, some fun accessories, some great jewelry. Like, cuff the—cuff the sleeves all the way up would be my—my choice here. Or to do, like, you know, if the sundresses feel too short, maybe there’s a ton of midi options, which I think is another, like, strongly debated—the length of dresses is also maybe a topic of contention—
Liz Hmm.
Marge —that we could talk about on an episode because I think in a lot of—I think a lot of folks have opinions on the length of dresses and what works for them. I think it also depends on what shoes you’re gonna wear and how you’re gonna style it. So, like, to say, “I don’t ever wear blank,” feels crazy to me. But also, if you have a certain style that you like, go for it. But, like, when I think of a music event, something that’s cool, put together, I immediately go to, like, a dress. And it’s a one-piece wonder. You put it on. It’s easy. I like something with, especially for summer, a little bit of a pattern. I would probably opt for something that’s sleeveless or, like, a tank style or a short sleeve so that I can bring a layer if I want to, but I don’t need to. And that would be my—my go-to for the event. That would be, like, a fun lunch to—to, like, indoor concert sort of vibe that feels flirty and cute, but still, like, comfortable.
Maloree I—mine—what I thought of instantly, because she said that she has a lot of sundresses but wants something that’s, like, new and fun. I follow this creator on TikTok. Her name is Courtney Mitchell. I think she’s a stylist at Anthropologie, and she has—
Marge Mm-hmm.
Maloree —been pairing mini dresses with, like, a wide-leg jean.
Liz Cute.
Marge Ooh.
Maloree And it’s not something that, like, I would have ever done before because, like, jeans with a dress seems like that doesn’t compute in my mind. But the way that it looks, it’s like a fit-and-flare dress—
Marge Yeah.
Maloree —with the jeans underneath. And so it looks just like a longer tunic top. And—
Liz Thank you.
Maloree —I think that’s really cute. And I think it’d be a fun way to experiment with the pants, experiment with a new silhouette of jeans, and then also get to wear the sundresses that you like already but maybe feel too short—
Liz Mm-hmm.
Maloree —to wear on their own, and still, like—
Marge That’s a great idea.
Maloree —be super trendy and, like, elevate it that way, which I think would be fun, especially for, like, a music event or being out at the park. You don’t have to worry about, like, sitting like a lady or making sure you’ve got—
Liz I love it.
Maloree —all of your—all of your bits covered under your dress and stuff. But—
Marge Yeah.
Maloree —I think that would be a fun way to just try something different.
Liz Uh-huh.
Marge That also is, like, such a nod to that era of, like, 15, 20 years ago that is coming back—
Liz Hmm.
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —that I’ve seen quite a bit. And yeah, I love that. I—I think I know who you’re talking about, and she’s got very, very cool style. I’ve seen quite a few—
Maloree She’s—is it—
Marge —Anthro stylists on—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —TikTok. And yeah. Yeah, same.
Maloree I’m obsessed with all of them. I, like, as soon as she posts a new video, I s—this one, she’s got white hair, and she always wears it in, like, two little space buns.
Marge Yeah. Space buns. Yeah.
Maloree I am obsessed with her. I’m obsessed with—
Liz I know who she is. She’s adorable. Yeah.
Marge Yeah, yeah.
Maloree —her.
Marge She’s so cool. If she’s listening, do you want to come on the pod? Do you want to be friends with us? I love her style. Yes, absolutely. She actually is what got me to buy those, like, very wide-leg, with a ruffle on the bottom, linen pants that I—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —would have never—
Liz There you go.
Marge —thought about before. But I saw her wear something similar, and I’m like, that looks so cute with a white T-shirt and sandals. Yeah, easy. I’m—
Maloree Mm-hmm.
Marge —like, man—
Maloree Funny, she—
Marge See, the new—
Maloree —was the reason that I decided to wear that t—that T-shirt under the dress like I did because I think she did something very similar. And look at us. Regina—
Marge Yeah. Oh my gosh. Wow.
Maloree —George wore—
Marge Yeah. I love it.
Liz Hahaha.
Marge I love it. I love it. I think—I think our anonymous SOS submitter, I think you have some options here. And we’re excited to hear what you choose. Let us know if you want any other suggestions. I’ll send you an email just to follow up and—and make sure that if you want a Dia & Co. box in the meantime, we’ll make sure that we get you one. Thank you for submitting.
Liz Sweet.
Marge And I think this is the perfect time to kind of wrap this up because it ties us back to fall trends and sort of what’s—what’s around. I have a few rapid-fire closing questions. One that we—I believe—answered earlier already: suede or leather?
Maloree Suede.
Liz Suede.
Marge Leather. But maybe this is my season. Maybe this is my—my year to try suede. A trend that you can’t believe is back. Low-rise jeans. Why? Why? Why?
Maloree Yeah.
Liz Again.
Maloree That and, like, the poncho—
Liz I guess that’s…
Maloree —things.
Marge Yeah.
Liz Gauchos also, recently.
Marge No.
Maloree Liz hates a gaucho.
Liz I really hate gauchos.
Marge Yeah. Yeah, the poncho. Yeah, the poncho. I did—I do still have, like, this amazing poncho from Eileen Fisher from back in the day that was my very first gifted piece back when I first started in fashion that I won’t ever get rid of. But ponchos were, like, the, like, fat-girl accessory of the early aughts, and I had many. And looking back at photos, I want to be like, girl, they still knew you were fat. What are you—
Liz And—
Marge —why? Why? Like—
Maloree It just looks like you’re wearing a blanket.
Marge —what are you doing? You look crazy. It’s okay. It was a different time. It was fine.
Liz It’s a different time.
Marge It was a different time. A big poncho and a belt. What are we doing? Why? I was so hot. I was always so hot.
Liz God, stop, stop, stop.
Marge Okay, and then let’s see. My opinion on fall style is blank. Fill in the blank.
Liz I’m ready for it.
Maloree Yeah.
Marge Hell yeah.
Liz Is that an opinion? It’s mine. That’s my opinion. I’m ready for it.
Marge Sure.
Maloree I don’t know, perfect, I guess. Like, when I think of my perfect day, it’s in the fall, like, with my boots and just, like, all my comfortable sweaters.
Marge Yeah.
Maloree I—or comfort. Fall—my opinion on fall style is comfort.
Marge Yep. Yep. I love that. Absolutely. Well, it has been an amazing episode that we are going to edit and release in less than 48 hours because that’s how life has thrown it to us. But it’s episode 10, which is crazy. And we will get Carly on the podcast next episode to talk about denim jeans. I know everybody’s excited. We can’t wait to hear what trends you’re loving and what styles and style opinions you have. So feel free to leave them in the comments, and we’ll see you next time. Bye.
Liz Thank you. Bye.
Maloree Bye.
Looking for more Styled, Off Script? Check out our other episodes:
Episode 9: How to Find Your Personal Style Again When It Stops Feeling Like You
Episode 8: Getting Dressed for What Comes Next with Tamara Mitchell
Episode 7: The Clothes That Earned Their Place
Episode 6: The Bag, the Blazer, and the 4 A.M. Flight
Episode 3: Breaking Free (from Fashion Rules)
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